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Question: Hi Charles I was thinking about buying a horse for myself and my daughter what breed would you suggest well Jim how old is your daughter did you send the rock pie to that one kid the periscope video yeah actually we we were gonna send an Intel nook to them which is a much more powerful computer than Arak Pyatt of similar size but Intel makes them and I'll check was Rod Alexander about that Justin but I know that rod had a chance to ping him and his son and actually I think we're going to invite them to come speak about their experiences at the virtual summit but thanks for reminding me I delegated it to rod and we'll make sure that we we look into that but I upgraded it from a rock pie to an Intel look it's a few hundred dollars more but the kid can use it for his a lot more than just staking Haden so I figured why not 11 years old you're okay might be a little big but I love Friesians Friesians are great horses you know quarter horses are good too Arabians are quite nice they're a little smaller you know Mongolian ponies are so cool I ride them all the time whenever I'm in Mongolia there's a perfect size for an eleven-year-old they live a long time they're real stubborn I then but they're they're super loyal horses and you can't kill them no matter what you do to him they were built to survive and the harshest of conditions so it's a good horse to have some breeds of horses are super pretty but they're very temperamental and they have tons of health problems just like dogs Kauai Maui Maui Maui Maui Maui is born on Maui Maui pride ever been to Brazil yes Sao Paulo and Rio need Rio de Janeiro I love Brazil do you have to get massive vaccine shots to travel Mongolia no no not at all Mongolia is a great place highly highly recommended traffic is terrible I used to joke I was well I was a half serious that it took me four hours to go from the airport to the centre of Ljubljana badr which is only 20 kilometers and I said if this ever happens again I'm just going to ride horses from the from the airport to the city and by the way you can do that in Monaco yeah it's one of the few places I've gotten there about two hours on horseback Friesians are very elegant have you ever written in Icelandic pony no I want to know they're beautiful Charles your fascination with the Middle East is intriguing is there any reason behind that I'm not particularly fascinated over any other region I mean the Mesopotamian culture was just absolutely extraordinary and thousands of years of unique history there and they for their time were the most sophisticated civilizations how's polymath going I successfully completed my consulting-room I signed a one-year agreement and completed that and now they're building polymesh and I wish him well and I think they're gonna do a good job with it hope they do give him a lot of advice do you have a degree in history now I study mathematics but I love history there's a lot of magical things to do in history Charles have you ever been to Hydra yep Shanghai and Beijing and that's pretty much yet never in the countryside unfortunately will a Thai have stos yeah we will support permission to ownership for security tokens what are your thoughts on Elrond you know I don't know too much about the project but they seem to have some good people and they've been very nice to me so I have nothing negative to say about them and one of these days when I have the time I'll dig deeper into what they've done there's just a lot of projects out there and to do proper due diligence does take a lot of time that said you can tell a lot about a project based upon where they come from and their community and how friendly they are and when they tend to be open welcoming and friendly it's a good sign it's a good first indication what are your thoughts of a Zulu quoi they've been the opposite of Elrond the only exposure I have are people who are in that community spamming my Twitter and reddit and other things basically telling me how they've already solved every problem that we seek to solve and we're [ __ ] and they're great I mean if that's what you do then I don't even take the time to read anything about you I mean I'm congratulations you've already beat me so why do you even care Charles why 45 billion ADA because 49 billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine eight it just was not enough and forty five billion in one ADA was too much not an emotional reaction what do you think about the merits of their work well you know North of Eden here's the problem time is finite life is short and there are thousands of cryptocurrencies thousands of projects and it does take quite a bit of time effort an opportunity cost to do diligence on a project so I have to make decisions of what which ones do we look at and obviously if there's a strong commercial adoption of a project regardless if I like it or not I'll look into it because I want to understand why are they successful and why did they achieve what they've achieved but if they're a small project and they're not particularly successful in terms of network effect or value that I have to have a reason to actually look into them and either because I hear through the grapevine that there's something really interesting about what they've done and usually it's because I'll read one of their papers because there's all kinds of papers being published all the time to ePrint or some other source and you know something will come to me and I said oh I really admire that that's really cool stuff like ava avalanche is an example of that where I know him in and I met him many times we talked over Twitter from time to time and he's a good researcher and he writes good papers and he's a good booster of that project so when I heard about it I said well I should read the paper and I should look at what they're doing and so I'll actually do a deep dive but if I don't have a personal connection or I haven't seen anything that's from that side that really draws me in the only reason I'll even look at it at that point is because I have positive warm fuzzy feelings about the community and I say well you know there's got to be some reason why they're so nice and so interesting to talk to like Zen caches great example of that I really like rob and Ralph and all the other people there the horizon community is wonderful so I'll spend some time there but if the community just shows up and says we solved everything you guys are all idiots everything you've done is terrible we're brilliant you're stupid you know why do you even bother we're gonna beat all of you it's like okay alright well have a nice day you know I just don't have time for it now maybe that's naive maybe that's counterproductive maybe they do have all that stuff and their arrogance is justified but then you have to ask well why haven't they gotten mass adoption and they're in the top ten then Charles not sure if this has been answered yet but will you be able to steak from the Dedalus main net yes you'll be able to state from Dedalus you'll be able to delegate to a steak pool from Dallas there's a whole Center for that and we'll also have those capabilities can arrogance ever be justified yeah sure there's plenty of super arrogant brilliant people out there that do amazing work and it's never a positive yeah you know it's one of those situations where they succeed despite themselves not because of themselves arrogance will only ever hurt you doesn't help you do you have to have a lot of ego and a lot of personality to believe that you can run a company and you can succeed when you walk into an endeavor that has a failure rate of more than 90% in five years the fact that you succeed and other people don't it has a bit of survivorship bias and ego attached to it so you always have to keep that in check as a founder of a company and as a successful academic can you recommend any books or resource to study cryptography introduction to modern crypto from John Katz wonderful book probably the Bible of introduction to crypto hi Charles are we expecting any updates and developer documentation soon yeah around the 30th is when they're scheduled we're working real hard on that have you ever heard of the Bolivian silver mine and potosi yeah should or each show thus mountain of silver and also the mountain that eats men I probably more have died there than any other place in Bolivia for remaining I have heard of it it's also mentioned in the ascent of money it's a great book come on give me some good questions what Charles what do you think about promoting car down on the chimpanzee community Kent can animals own car Donal we actually thought about creating a token that would represent like image a reverse life insurance policy where a community would make money based on keeping certain rare animals alive so it was basically an anti-poaching measure measure so let's see have a rhino and as long as the Rhinos rock walking around and living you everybody around the Rhino who's in the the neighborhood who's like the custodian of it will get a payment but as soon as the rhino perishes then the payment stops so the community has a basically a financial incentive to keep poachers out so that's I think the closest you could ever get to animal ownership of a crypto but it is an intriguing economic concept of poaching is an economic phenomena then anti poaching should certainly be as well and if the incentives are stronger on one side than the other it should actually prevent it how often you check the top 10 coins I Jeff Cohen market cap about once a day sometimes twice once in the morning once at night mostly because big movements in price or indication of some macro event or some news event and so it's a good super compressed way of looking at the industry from a slice and saying did something happen like if we all go way into the red or raw way in the green or one coin is just way up then you say okay something happened and then you can kind of dig into that by the way that interim our modern crypto get the second edition of Liddell and Yehuda Lyndell and John Katz's but the second edition is really good first editions fine to Cody is coming to the summit if you want to hear about what Cody's doing attend the virtual summit what is the meaning of life you know Jordan Peterson used to say find something that is so meaningful that any amount of suffering would be a small price to pay to do that thing so that's probably the meaning of life which of the Millennium mathematics problems will be solved by blockchain none but if we do the key adidas bra program if we actually do that it might actually create a strong enough incentive to bring enough people in to actually solve some of these Millennium problems well hello from South Carolina for those of us who plan on sticking by a ledger you'll be able to actually in the hardware wallet center of Daedalus State with your ledger device really like your áááá on the absurdity of CEOs trying to maintain a politically correct public face and that's the problems like they have no values just be yourself you know if you're gonna go out there and lead people they have to know who's there and have to know where you stand they might hate you for it but it ultimately is just a far better way of conducting yourself and the other side of it is if people accept you for who you are you have much stronger relationship and much more empathy with the people that you lead and you aspire to lead and they are willing to give you a much better benefit of the doubt than if you're a hollow person who just uses corporate speak and diarrhea is all this nonsense that we've seen it's really sickening you know I I'm friends Silicon Valley who works in the HR department of a company there and I won't mention the company but he had an employee who dresses like a cat here's years has a tail all this stuff come in and say I'm going to sue the company unless you guys give me a litter box for the bathroom and they caved the CEO of the company caved they actually in one of the stalls put a giant litter box and this employee will go and use the litter box instead of the toilet because he thinks he's a cat and they just they just caved this is the world we're living in now so if you live in California you're part of what that culture you you can get yourself a litter box if you if you identify as a cat I know you know and I know that the CEO thought that was batshit crazy and then when asked publicly about it said you know we we're very inclusive we believe very firmly in a safe workplace bla bla bla have the courage to say no you can wear the cat ears in the tail but you can't you can't you can't defecate in a giant human size litter box there are some thresholds you can't cross and this is why we do the EMAs to have a demo during the may product update the day of he said we're not ready for and I said okay do it when you're ready and he's still working on it they ran into some issues with unique device ID and some things on the ledger firmware and they're trying to work around the fact that the firmware it doesn't have everything that we need so the long-term solution is the update the firmware which vacuum Labs is currently doing but the sharp short-term solution is some sort of contorted workaround for the hardware wallet center but they'll get it done this month it should happen I was pretty sad about that - I gotta let you if kardama becomes big you'll be attacked by the mainstream media as well they'll go back many years and find something to talk about oh god yeah these these AAAS are gonna give them so much to talk about I'm looking forward to a 5-10 second clips here and there of things I've said being taken completely out of context or wholesale just depending upon where you fall on the spectrum and them turning me into the world's greatest monster which is why you can never build a cult person wrap the personality around the kids because if you have that that's a vector of attack so the burden is on us to make sure that we decentralize this thing right so when they take old Charles down Anna's still going strong hey moth how you doing buddy look at what's to join us bye moth can we build an AI like Prometheus that shows factual information like in the book life 3.00 that'd be pretty cool wouldn't it all right what else you guys got for me cuz I would you have any desire to make hardware products we already are Charles why not move card out of Puerto Rico act twenty is four percent business tech act 20 to 0 percent capital gains on taxes stocks yeah there's a lot of IRS stuff you have to do and I have to live in Puerto Rico half a year I live in Colorado I don't particularly care about the tax rate I just pay what it is it's my home can we decentralize that Mothe Oh believe me there's a lot of them they're very decentralized they're everywhere those damn moths Charles you mentioned the name a while back they were working on a project as big as card on oh can you give us some more info on that we are and no still working on it it's a very big have you read Nietzsche's book Beyond Good and Evil yes also his other book the spoke zarathustra which inspired a lovely orchestra does 5g cause cancer no evidence phone disagrees favorite computer scientists who I would offend some people if I mentioned that actually I think I needed this one Kirk girdle technically a computer scientist and he news from Steve Wolfram yes he is attending the virtual summit and he's gonna do a lovely presentation what's your opinion on von Neumann oh he was great guy - brilliant guy horrible human being he harassed a lot of women but a brilliant brilliant scientist and brilliant mathematician even with a standard of his time people considered him to be a bit too much do you like and ran philosophy No do you like Trump no man's bereft of integrity bereft of depth he's like everything that I stand against bundled into a single human being how horrible does the American political system have to be that guy like Trump is a desirable alternative to the candidates we were given it's really a reflection on how bad things have gotten rather than him as a leader we doesn't read anything doesn't care to read anything operates on innuendo and heuristics that are well out of a bed and there's just no depth about him and no integrity about him he can just sit and lie to your faith he brags about screwing people who brags about cheating people and defrauding people you know contract comes my house and says I'll fix the windows I say great tell me how much is gonna be they say this much as soon as they're done I Pam and they say it's gonna be X amount of dollars I cut a check a guy like Trump says come fix my casino come fix my Tower and they say okay they go and quote he says sure they go do the whole thing and he says oh I'm not gonna pay you assuming and then they they get in this huge dispute and he draws it out for a little while and that eventually says I tell you I'll give you 60% of what you bid just to make me go away and they say fine go [ __ ] yourself and then he writes in his books this is a good way of doing business would you do business with a guy like that who brags about how he is able to use the bankruptcy to be able to get rid of debt and these other things and you know haha didn't have to pay that guy or made a good deal here you know there's just no character there the Trump University thing was another really disgusting thing you'd go to all these poor people and tell them you're gonna teach them how to get rich you know we have a lot of that in our industry where you have these youtubers or other people running around saying oh yeah I'll teach you how to make tons of money with crypto you know just follow my investment scheme of course it never works no one has a silver bullet and then he says after you spend X tens of thousands of dollars you'll have a chance to meet me and at the end of the whole thing they have a cardboard cutout of him he doesn't even he couldn't even bother to actually meet the people to give him tens of thousands of dollars yeah and so what do people vote for him or support him because it's a [ __ ] you to the entire system they say that we would rather have a clown to disgrace the office and disgrace the institutions then play the game anymore and until the system understands that we will continue having that so don't like it change it you know and aspire to something better and what we're being offered is just more of the same fifty years in politics a to the last twelve years was the number two guy and that's change they're not getting the lesson so he's probably gonna win re-election as a consequence so maybe in 2024 both parties will actually understand that they have to change and if they don't we'll eventually be pushed to a civil war and a lot of people will die and it will be horrible for everyone but that's what they want okay I get rich gurus all over YouTube there's tons of a man I tell anybody tells they're gonna make you rich without hard work or you know getting lucky don't listen to that person easy path that wealth is an easy path to getting your wealth taken away from you why did you choose Haskell over golang I just felt that it was a better programming language all in all for formal methods the type of work we were doing the fact that we were building a high assurance concurrent system go is a perfectly reasonable language we used to go with the etherium project for the NGO etherium and other cryptocurrencies have used go as well if memory serves I believe cosmos is implemented and go and there's plenty of good go developers out there but for the type of work that we wanted to do Haskell is the way to go and we have spent a lot of time effort money to make that work for us favorite architect Imhotep didn't expect that one did you how can we get term limits constitutional amendment to terms in the Senate five terms in the Congress no more Pelosi's no more McConnell's ha I'm a scientist philosopher and I'd like to know a little bit more why you prefer to use a Bacchus perspective using Haskell and on a typical formal method using structured programming hey you're a funny one actually one thing I would love to to do is first off have formal specs that are a little bit more useful right now the formal specs are written in a way that are readable and easy to modify they're in the latex we can't do code extraction or model checking with them that's quite unfortunate and what we do is we write reference haskell with the formal specs and you know TL A+ would be an option I've always been a fan of temporal logics but there are many ways to square that circle and actually we have a very good director of formal methods at i/o HK Phillip Kahn started as a physicist he actually worked at CERN and somewhere along the way he said computer science is just so much more cool and unlocking the mysteries of the universe and he's actually built up a great center of excellence within our company and he has a very diverse group of people in formal methods who love everything from Agda to lean and to other such things and we've even created our own process calculus it's it's a great group and it's one of the hidden gems of i/o global Charles you're watching too much Silence of the Lambs how do you figure I'd tell you UDP UDP joke but I don't think you'd get it ha ha ha ha ha ha but if you do you'll get it a lot faster than a TCP joke what do you think about Trump's Tulsa event and I should have it if we can protest he can have those events what's the difference no difference you've lost all moral authority politics is okay it's the walk virus Charles why make things so difficult complex with Haskell why not just keep it simple and build it in basic because code is read ten times for every one time it's written and if you ever want to maintain it of all of it grow it or find problems in it write it in a language that helps you with that as opposed to a language that hinders you with that who you gonna vote for Charles probably the libertarian candidate my vote doesn't count Colorado is gonna be blue so no matter what I think I have no voice zero I'm not represented I've never had in my lifetime a president I voted for when my state is blue so if I vote for Biden well then I'm just giving him a little bit more more you know oomph for his victory if I vote for Trump well doesn't matter vote for anybody else doesn't matter my vote does not count your vote does not count only a small group of Americans vote actually counts how [ __ ] up of a system is that and that's the one we live in is there any delay may net launch No Charles how do you explain consciousness you'd act if you're really curious about that I'd highly recommend you okay to YouTube and Google Marvin Minsky Marvin Minsky consciousness he was a really famous computer scientist and AI researcher and he has a great dialogue about that and that he had shortly before he died Marvin was a very brilliant man Charles are you woke well Ariel what do you think am i feel pretty whoa calm would you prefer a direct democracy like Switzerland Switzerland doesn't actually have a direct democracy it's a far more nuanced system they don't even have a president they actually have a committee that leads the country and it's a cantonal Confederacy what do you think about Justin Trudeau losing 1 billion dollars over a UN Council seat well if they ever find his testicles let me know he's not a man something else not a big fan of trade oh and I think he's actually Castro's kid I saw those pictures I'm pretty convinced of it Charles do you think Hitler fled Argentina the FBI thought so who knows if he did they probably would have found him the Israelis would have found him they were pretty vicious about that one they they scoured all a South American looking for Nazis I spoke about true true doping Castro's kid online and the Canadian Secret Service came to my workplace no I don't believe that I want to believe that's true John I really do but I don't I can't I'm sorry can't Canada's not that aggressive what did they just come up on a moose I'm sorry you can't go after our leader have some maple syrup when Willie Oh sky oh yes we'll never die dad Larimer we'll just leave it and the Justin son will take it over he'll create yo stew wrath of wrath of Dan [Music] Canadians are apparently Kermit the Frog nah I just do that for my Canadian impersonation my chief of staff tomorrow hasson she's she's Canadian and I always have so much fun picking on Canada and she hates me for it can't some lovely conversations from time to time picking on lovely Canada although Canada actually one of the most beautiful countries I've ever been to you know and [Music] there's actually my favorite steak house in the entire world is there I'm Jacob sink oh it's in Toronto there's a lot of great things I love Vancouver it's a beautiful city as well your thoughts on Elon Musk and the work he's doing on neuro Lange seems interesting yeah yeah it's one of those things that when you get on to like a you know 18 24 month evolution cycle and you tether it to something really good you like like restoring paralysis you know or dealing with epilepsy then within just 10 or 20 generations it will become a consumer product and then at that point it's getting a game-changer for all of humanity give us telepathy massive amount of data retention ability to transfer complex thoughts you know I'm transferring information to you guys and I'm doing that through speech so my brain is firing and I'm thinking and then it translates to some muscular processes and then basically I'm blowing air through my mouth and vocal cords and this is creating sound in a very particular way it goes here it goes to you and that's a super super low tech low bandwidth medium and language is required to make that understandable and language has all this ambiguity so complex concepts require enormous amounts of effort to encode and decode and decipher and there's lots of misconceptions that occur or misinterpretations that occur okay well if you have neural link I can just think of a complex concept and send it to you wholesale and you receive it with no necessary changes and you just you just get it so you know if I wanted to talk about the Hilbert's null Stalin thoughts you know and show you how to prove that just something in the algebra world that you learn in grad school I could just be like boom and you give oh wow that's really cool that's amazing it's a hidden gem of mathematics and normally it'd take you about three months to understand it and you just get it so think about what that does to the world when something like that comes out it it changes everything absolutely everything well chatters more knowledgeable about crypto than half a crypto Twitter yeah Shatner is really smart he had a chance to meet him and have dinner with him down in Mexico and Bill is is really up to date guys in his 80s and he's he's sharp as hell I love William Shatner I really do Charles to do consultancy anymore I put it on hold during the coronavirus I was probably gonna make between one to two million dollars consulting this year and then all that got ended because of coronavirus it's usually what I make doing it and so next year get back to it what was your first job huh the first job I really liked I actually built replicas Rolexes for a guy from Senegal he would give me a bunch of these counterfeit watches and I would upgrade them and put Swiss movements into them I was 17 at the time I'd put ETA 2836 movements and and then legit and aftermarket bezels and crowns and the and the right sapphire with the right magnification the cyclops it's 2.5 x for the rolex submariner and get bracelets in that actually had a proper waiting so that they felt like that they were gold they were triple wrap gold plated with lead yeah that was a lot of fun I I love watches and to have a job and it's so young and be paid to basically build them without a degree in her ology that was fun favorite watch company Jaeger laocoön is probably the best engineering company at the moment because of the gyro turbine Vacheron Constantin in my view makes the prettiest skeleton watches Jack a drone makes the best of Tommy Tom's there are minute repeaters that they do the bird repeater is unbelievable and all of the the repeaters that they do are unbelievable well blow is is fun you can you can throw them at people that's the wrapper watch the the ice do blow with gold you know it's like a heavy heavy watch to have PJ makes this beautiful thing called the Altiplano and it's the thinnest mechanical watch I think you can buy right now that's an automatic and the weights on the back actually have to come out of platinum because gold is not heavy enough it's not dense enough you made Rolexes you fake Rolexes i would upgrade them to have swiss movements in them it was fun I didn't sell them I just I just worked on and whatever happened after that was someone else's business I've had a I've had a unique life kids I also worked at a KFC Taco Bell that was a less desirable job it didn't even have the dignity to be a proper KFC it had to be a Taco Bell as well made the chicken and I was really bad about it I almost burnt myself with the with an exploding chicken cooker yeah the extra greasy chicken here the extra crispy chicken for KFC you're supposed to open up the top on the fryer for the second round of frying that you do for it I left a doll on and actually built up too much pressure and exploded all this grease came over the whole back of the kitchen and I had to jump out of the way of it that was fun and broke my glasses Charles looks like a Russian gangster without the glasses he has to keep them to avoid scaring people yes I went with the John Lennon look instead well you ever wear contacts or do LASIK nope yeah I'll only I'll only replace I'll only replace my eyes when that's good otherwise I'll just go blind and then somebody will read to me funny Jack Ma got declined for a job at McDonald's look at him now you notice Jack he has this amazing life stories like I tried 17 times for this and then I applied for Harvard 12 times and then I went to McDonald's and then they rejected me and then I was drugged and woke up in a bathtub missing a kidney but then they gave me the kidney back because they rejected it and said it wasn't a good enough kidney then I had to find somebody who would quit the kidney back into me but then 12 surgeons wouldn't do it so I had to do it myself with dental floss I still have that floss kidney it's like so I'm not really exaggerating very much when you listen to Jack Ma talk that guy is so much fun [Laughter] and now is crazy rich but it's crazy rich in China you know that's not a good deal if the government turns against you you're disappeared you know the first thing I think I would do if I was a Chinese billionaires moved to Switzerland and resend my citizenship yeah true that KB do you think a resource-based economy it would work ray do you remember that guy he's the weird French or whatever dude he's bald Venus Project or something like that can somebody look him up I wish I had Jamie I'd be like Jamie can you look up that being his project guy aah Jill Rogan he's got a good crew I gotta hire a crew for this [ __ ] guys having fun I'm having fun looking good well you're looking good too Johnnie Walker thank you I'll be your Jamie Charles okay well then mgl zmd can you I'm just gonna call you mm can you can you look that up Venus Project who's that short bald guy that runs a resource-based economy Charles have you ever met Peter teal yeah he's a nice guy what cigars do you smoke and what alcohol do you fancy I already answered the alcohol so you're gonna have to refer back for cigars of Hemingway's October fluenta Hemingway's they're like 10 bucks super cheap you can buy them off the back of a golf cart when you're you know golfing the drink girls sell them to you and and they're just great the short stories are just great perfect cigar for a single setting Jacques phone call yeah Jacque fresco yeah The Venus Project exactly he once went to see a boulder I saw him speak he died a few years ago too Oh No when did he die yeah he was talking about all these buildings that you can make out of like metal that had memory and they could self assemble right out-of-the-box super creative nice guy when did he die that makes me sad I didn't even know are you listening Shelley on Finance shallow cardano's already on Finance it's our number one trading exchange like nobody cares if itna to takes value from hate in the market well Sato it has to be traded first itna de it's not and if it is traded it only a curve there is real independent use and utility for that chain so that's a long way from happening and every a de holders got an opinion about it thoughts about Mike Tyson getting back in the ring well if those fight videos are to be believed he's looking like a pretty good fighter he's not looking like 20s Mike Tyson but he looks maybe like 40s Mike Tyson I think it's gonna be fun have you harvested any jalapeno peppers yes sir I have and they are good please for the love of all things holy have you had any results from the brain wave device you bought a couple of weeks ago no I stopped using it thoughts about singularity net been speaks very highly of Carden oh yes he's actually coming to speak at the virtual summit and I'll have a one-on-one with him and hopefully we can get singularity net on card on Oh that'd be very very fun and actually Ben's kid is an incredibly talented Haskell programmer small world huh he's a good man I was a huge fan of OpenCog his great framework yeah we're bringing everybody the virtual summit come on now it's a fun thing do you consider Pluto a planet we're not even gonna have that debate we're not even gonna have that debate sir no no no no no no where can I find a good biography on you I haven't done enough stuff yet at some point somebody will write one about me and so it'll be like one of those choose your own adventure books you just decide what my background is I'll just go with it and that's when I wrote The Birdcage I had a two-year gay relationship with Robin Williams have you ever read George Orwell yep mandatory reading for these days Phil Zimmerman yes I've met Phil many times last time was that gyro crypt in Israel a really bright guy I'd love to work with him on another PGP standard one of these days we'll get around to it it would be amazing if you had a reality TV show about your career and farm you know I've actually been offered two different reality TV shows I've had various people reach out to me and I've turned them both down I think the AMAs are a lot more fun will the Ethiopia gals be at the virtual summit yeah some of them will be your dad's a doctor you have any brothers and sisters I have an older brother his name's William and he is also a doctor he's doctor of internal medicine and Gillett were your parents in the military my mom was in the army she was an army mom have you ever been to Nigeria or South Africa yes to both Lagos and I've also been all throughout South Africa and actually I'm friends with a Roma pulse' family to mellow in particular and I stated fall off all at once which is his dad's ranch the Rawley poses are currently the cyril is currently the president of South Africa have you considered shaving your beard of just-for-fun Sado I have already done that get with the times man there are plenty of videos about shaven Charles have you ever read jorge luis borges yeah he did the that infinite library book and in several others if your mathematician that's required reading as well that in flatland livvie or Tacitus hoof what about cicero now Livia Livia the elder yeah he was a historian character class you'd pick and D&D well if we talk in third edition the scions sir yeah psionics for the win and obviously the intelligence scion the shaper what's up with that if the community wrote custom quest for legends of Valar would you put the top ten in the game you know actually I am gonna put custom characters in the game from people I've met in life good and bad I might put dant Larimer and Vitalik in the game and yeah the community went ahead and wrote some quests I would be happy to put some of those community quest in if you guys voted on it very soon Cardona will have a voting system and I might actually submit some ballots for that you know we people could you know have some ideas and characters they want to put in for various state pool operators and ambassadors and other major people the card on community would be fun to have you guys design your own character for the game and have it forever immortalized within that game you know beware pissing off a game developer because we can we can do all kinds of things Alexander the greater Caesar which Caesar you're talking probably about Julius Caesar or Augustus Caesar Julius if he lived long enough probably would have vastly surpassed Alexander and I fellig's and ER lived longer he probably would have vastly surpassed Genghis Khan so you know it's one of those tricky things we're all great conquerors are always undone by death Newton or Euler Euler come on now boiler we always always always got to represent the the home team I didn't study physics babbles library that's right yeah and they had that cult looking for the index that was required reading math is physics no physics is math got it the other way around son I characteris it's a literal pile of [ __ ] named Craig we can have him we'll just call him Craig Craig w and we'll have him as the stable guy you know and basically all he does in the game like 24/7 is just shovel [ __ ] and to a and to a wagon and then he just claims that he's written all the famous books in the game oh this is gonna be fun I'm gonna get sued what math problem would you like to have solved I would have loved to have solved the Goldbach conjecture I might go back in the mathematics that give it another shot now that I have damn near unlimited resources to pursue these things with anger it's just a beautiful problem it says any even energy or the binary Goldbach conjecture says any even integer for greater is equal to the sum of two prime numbers and there's just a richness about that problem because it's making a statement about a general factorization because any even number is just two times an arbitrary factorization to a specific type of factorization so there's a whole class of problems that are kind of like that like Collatz conjecture which says that if you have an even number you divided by 2 if you have an odd number you times it by 3 and add 1 and the conjecture is that if you generate a sequence of numbers that that sequence will always be finite and it kind of makes sense because you're saying all right if you ever hit a power - then and that's a trap it'll go all the way down to one and then one goes back to four to one so it creates a finite sequence they're called hailstone sequences so you know when you look at the division by two that's kind of the multiplicative side but that plus one it changes the factorization and so if you can solve gold back you probably would understand why collapse is true or false there's somewhat similar problems to each other it's a field of mathematics called additive number theory and there's a lot of magic there and and all those problems are just impossible to solve people work on them for decades and they make very little progress however you do solve it it's like an insta Fields Medal and if you're old and it's an instant Apple prize but it's like you become a big guy in a gal in mathematics but everybody's super skeptical he's just like oh yeah I have a solution for Goldbach conjecture like okay nobody reads them because nobody thinks you can solve it unless you're Terry Tao or something like that and generally how you would solve something like that is that you would build this massive scaffolding of papers and you'd slowly work your way up to some sort of solution kind of like what Wiles did was from Osler theorem spent 20 years on that and he had to build all this crazy stuff to get their thoughts on the e8 theory where you can actually have a unified field theory with Lee algebras it's beautiful picture if you guys google ea8 physics and click images you can actually see the EI complex talicia or whatever his name is has it napoleon or simone Bulova napoleon what's the longest she ever worked on a single math problem I thought about Goldbach off and on for eight years seriously thought about it for two I really wanted to solve that problem I really it was my white whale I really want this Albin you know it was something so fundamental and so simple you yeah in mathematics you develop a relationship with certain ideas and problems and they become like your friends and you go and have a conversation with them from time to time and you know and when you solve it actually it's like your friend dies you know you never quite have another problem that means as much to you so in a way you don't want to solve it but on the other hand you want to and when you get there if you get there if you're so privileged to get there then it's something that's so indescribably beautiful this is why you know this is why you know I I love mathematics so much now there's an unlimited amount of problems to work on yeah there's you can do whatever you want for the rest of your life and touch only a very small part of a very very small part of a very small part of a massive thing so but emotionally there's only a few that you'll ever find that you just like they mean a lot to you understanding details and nuances of the monster group was and the surreal numbers was something that Conway was obsessed with we all know him from Conway's Game of Life but that was his white whale and he didn't live long enough to actually see all the things that he wanted crew approved kind of sad but that's the way the cookie crumbles if you ever heard of big nation you know that was Susan Temple Huff's thing Charles is Liska dead project you've been a consultant that's why I'm asking I did consult for a little bit I actually stopped consulting because they weren't using me I became a consultant they never called me and they never attain anything and they were paying me and I was like guys what he want to do in the straw that broke the camel's back was that they went out got some university relationship and they never once even consulted me on it I was like guys I could have negotiated this with you and saved you a bunch of money so I actually just I just left and I gave back the rest of the money I didn't complete the full year and I wrote an open letter about it and I wish him well you know max is not a bad dude he's actually quite nice person to talk to you in person but I never really understood where they would like to go with it so I couldn't really had a lot of value to it when do you see the African farmer voucher program coming together on card ah no we're still bidding on that voucher program we were supposed to have a final decision but then the government delayed the bid by about two weeks so hopefully we at least get an understanding if we were accepted or not and then we'll begin negotiations for the final contract Charles has the ABC conjecture really been solved yeah has Sydney she done it publishing in his own journal it didn't really help his case that he refused to leave Kyoto and not gonna lecture about it the problem with his proof is it's just simply too complicated and people have had this been years working their way slowly slowly through his paper and there's been some concerns but I don't think there's consensus in the mathematical community one way or the other but the general consensus is that he was naughty because he needs to do better at explaining things who is your favorite old-school wrestler oh come on now Macho Man Randy Savage tried any Ethiopian coffee lately the stuff that you drink outside of the country is better than the stuff inside of the country because of the import-export laws that they have it's the great irony of Ethiopia they're one of the largest producers in the world of coffee and you get you get coffee and coffee by outside of the country is better it's crazy has halo been peer reviewed I don't think it was accepted in any conference but people are working on it Charles has a golden ratio been implemented anywhere card out oh yes some of the art work that we've done especially the cue ball the cue ball stuff that we do on the card on a road map for the pictures of Shelley and Ada and so forth there's a lot of golden ratio stuff in the art we're all good after Gogan see you starting to get it if you have a slogan people get it remember moonwalking with Einstein great book shellie ships June 30th not the 29th July 29th is the date you're referring to and that's the heart forked date the backup ship date is the seventh of July if for some reason something goes wrong with the testing that we're doing this upcoming week a to Charles hey Charles how's your mental and physical health going yeah pretty good got a chance to catch up on all my stuff this year things look pretty good I had a botched cholesterol test and I redid it and now it's normal again what happened was that they left my labs out in the Sun just in the truck or something and everything went weird and so they said hey you need to come back and take we take more blood out of you it's like you got 11 vials last time guys when will the pandemic end that's a good way to end the MA so guys here's my prediction governments too far along every politicians too far along they need an out so here's how they get their out they are gonna wait til the vaccines available and then after the vaccines had some time to percolate then they'll say everything's cured everything goes back to normal ok mission accomplished we saved all these lives look at that and we got three vaccines right now that are in Phase two which means that they've already cleared their safety trials and now they're in their efficacy trials and the US government is mass manufacturing those vaccines already so should they clear the efficacy trial they will be available immediately after they clear that trial the soonest that can happen is q4 of 2020 more likely than not q1 of 2021 and then the minute that's out life gets back to normal and we move on it won't all be the same but at least we'll be able to stop wearing these damn muzzles okay well thank you guys so much I appreciate you taking the time to be with me I always have fun being with you and these were some good questions you know wrap things up next week is gonna be a good week a lot of testing a lot of doing balance check is going to occur we got probably a vote happening sometime next week or the week after and a lot of people are working really hard right now to try to get all this stuff out get things done Shelley is imminent and July summit is imminent it's gonna be an experience I think that we all earned as a community and I look forward to seeing what happens with the itn and I look forward to seeing Shelley out there and all these small business owners take over and be able to actually do something productive and great for all of us and I look forward to Gogan coming out and I look forward to keep working with all yeah it's been fun and it's gonna continue being fun Cheers