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Charles are you still hoping to put out some of the best practice guidelines wallet password crypto security when would you hope to release this it'll be released Mike as a univee course and we will we'll get that out on you know in due course Charles Morgan is someone who's going to create that it's just we've been a little busy with the launch of Shelley but it's it's a priority I care a lot about the safe use of wallets and I'd like to wait for hardware wallets to be available with Daedalus because then we can do a one-stop shop Charles did you win the 5k for naming Dan's book bilzerian's book it was fun I couldn't read this that one guy's eye I saw him with this girl on his leg in a bikini and the guns on the desk and he's like I wrote this book in a few days and $5,000 if you can title it so those you don't know I I tweeted back dances with herpes and the tweet kind of blew up a little bit but there are just some people out there and they they carefully sculpt this image of what they think an alpha strong male should be you know like a good guy like the macho guy to live up to how incredibly empty is that lifestyle people love you because you have money okay and that's it so when you go to bed you know that everybody around you isn't not there because they legitimately care and like you they're only there because of the things you can do for them even if you can make that illusion last a long time you will be as lonely as they come absolutely lonely you know I got a lot of love in my life I'm surrounded by it from the animals on the farm to friends and family and I know that each and every person in my life because a lot of them were in my life before I had anything I was quite poor with off a thousand dollars a month they were there at that time they're still here and they treat me no differently so that is not a role model to look up to if that's the only thing you bring to the table and if you want to look for a real man well then pick a real man like Jaco will mink you know he's a good man but he's also a man's man it's like running Navy SEAL commandos and Ramadi that's uh that's not an easy thing to do yet despite the fact that he's so lethal one of the nicest most humble kindest gentlest people you'll ever meet that's true power having the ability to harm people but not having to do that the world is incredibly shallow and empty no it's not it's quite the opposite worlds magical and has depth you could not begin to imagine you know every single person alive today really is no different from the people that were alive during the times of Rome in fact if he took a baby today and you had it raised by Roman parents in Waiting it would you know grow up speaking Latin and having and looking like the Romans and having the same perspectives as them and fit in perfectly fine in that society and if you took a Roman baby raised him today they would look no different than you or me so what does it mean it means that we have thousands and thousands and thousands of years of unique history and perspectives and brilliance most of which is lost but some can be discovered and is hidden and if you want you can spend a lifetime multiple lifetimes and indulging in that soaking in it getting wisdom from it and that's in itself something that has profound depth you know the other thing is that people are genuinely good and I've seen people do things that are unbelievably difficult yet somehow they did them for the greater good of society I'll tell the story I've told it a few times but it's uh it's a good story so I went to Rwanda not too long ago and I had the fortune to visit the genocide museum in Kigali and the genocide museum is is a quite an interesting experience it's very difficult experience especially the kids room up on the second floor but the thing that really blew me away is I had a bodyguard with me while I was going around Africa his name was brave big tall guy lived up to his name and he was friends with the guy at the front desk and the guy at the front desk was Tutsi and anyway we went there right around lunchtime and so the guy at front desk started having lunch with another person who was Hutu and I found out only later that basically the that one had killed the others wife and kids so you have these two people together twenty years after the Holocaust there a million and a half people died and one of them murdered the wife and kids of the other just think about that for a moment and they're now together working in the same place a monument to that event in the horrors of that event getting along with each other so I just once I found it out I said I had to ask so I asked him why why are you friends why how could you let that go on and he said well if I keep the grudge it'll happen again and so for the sake of everyone's children and for the country we just have to forgive and move on I don't really think if someone killed my mom and dad and my brother wife and kids I could ever move on and forgive I I'm not that big of a person yet in that country in that place a random person I've never met before I never saw you'd never think you'd probably look him just like anybody else walking down the street was so strong but he had the ability to do that and grow beyond that because he understood the consequences of not being able to do that and it wasn't just him it was his country every single person in that country had to move on or else it would be endless chaos and war look at Palestine in Israel they always have legitimate grievances there's always going to be blood on both sides yet this is one of those rare cases where people who are so evolved that they could set these differences aside we can't seem to do that in the United States right now we're still talking about slavery yes it was horrible it's the original sin of our country but it was a long time ago and this is an event where most of the people in that country world are still alive from when that event happened they have direct people who were impacted but they could move on and find a way to make it work find a way to forgive and have society be healed so now this world is not empty and it's not filled with despair and chaos and badness and cynicism that's something that some French existentialist will tell you in a freshman college philosophy class life is [ __ ] smoke the cigarette they can go [ __ ] themselves they haven't lived life and they haven't seen life and they haven't seen the things I've seen I have seen people do these things and they weren't academic they were profound and if average people can find the courage to do that all of us can do that and one day we all will the wisdom gap will be filled the empathy will gap we filled will get to the next level of society yeah Vancouver is a very cool place politics can affect I ohk know because we move the company to Wyoming its iog will do a rebranding at some point with your background always in computer science it was never in computer science directly I studied a lot of computer science and took a lot of computer science courses but I studied primarily mathematics that was my background their mathematics created computer science and so they're kind of related to each other like math as the father or mother if you will of computer science and if you want to be a computer scientist with as a mathematician it's it's quite easy to do that but you tend to do different computer science when you come from a mathematicians perspective it's much more academic you like weird things like functional programming and dependent types and proof systems and you think less and less about practical things hey Charles is there a distribution schedule for what's function 13.8 billion a ton on circulation yeah it's on the original card on Oh Docs website but we're redoing all of that so it's more readable understandable but I think it's 20 or 30 years I don't remember the exact schedule for it but it'll be released with the new documentation at the end of the month what branch of mathematics that I study I study an analytic number theory wasn't particularly good at it but I don't think anybody's good at analytic temperature that's why nobody ever saw stem you think well there's one guy that's teri Tao he's pretty good Rudin was pretty good too he was a good analyst can you explain your solution the spikes of dishonest majority yeah we have a paper coming out called scats and this is like scope creep paper we keep getting more and more scope creep you know where we started with like let's let's think about our Horace and then we're like about proof of work as well now let's do a formal analysis of Byzantine fault-tolerant protocols as well it'd be like a grand unified theory of spice of dishonest majority so I don't know they're kind of overdoing it but you know it's this Agra losest thing he's gonna do his thing and a gallows kinda a gallows and I love them we love them and of course the papers are always amazing and they're super super fun to read but yeah I really do believe that it's gonna be one of the finest papers we've ever published and it's really the last mile at the research agenda you know we kinda had understand what Ledger's should look like and you know what should be the formal model of security then we had to understand a clocks work and synchronization works and how to do adaptive security and what primitives to use like the ahrefs and you know these types of things to be able to handle the randomness and what's too dirty versus just right and but you always had this spike if dishonest majority problem which is it's just always there with proof of state protocols and generally resolve that with checkpoints and manual intervention that's the naive way of doing it and then suddenly we have a more elegant way of looking at it in a more generic way for all of these protocols that was incredibly satisfying here that we actually had some interesting things to say on that problem that are going to be very meaningful for all proof of stake protocols so I'm quite proud but it will take a long long long time to get all this damn stuff done it's been months already it'll be months more this is just how these guys work because it does deserve that much time it's a foundational thing for everybody would you move to Wyoming no I'm a Colorado I live in Colorado I'm an hour out of Wyoming if I need to go there I Drive there it's easy do you think mathematical objects actually exist are they just useful figments yeah yeah are the useful fictions it's kind of like what Richard Fineman was asked what color is a shadow and if you ask a physicist that they give you a very elaborate answer you ask a mathematician does math exist you know the point of mathematics and the parts of your brain that tend to turn on and light up when you're thinking about math or just the frontal lobe but also the areas responsible for language so does language exists like does the word the' exist so it does v exists so v exists why does the not exist these are kind of interesting concepts them all over then you have all of these other constructs which are emergent from mathematical reasoning you build a formal system so you have axioms you say these are my rules okay this and this and this must be true I'm not going to prove it I'm just going to assume that they are true okay and then you have operators you have logics intentional and quantificational logic so you have things like conjunction junction so and and or implication by implication negation and then you have quantification like for all there exist these types of constructs they want to get a reason around they of course have to have things in your world variety of sets and you say okay is something a member of this set or not then you have to have test to decide membership inside those sets then you start reasoning about rules about that and then you start realizing that you need other objects like classes and addition of the sets or else you run into paradoxes and then you ask well [ __ ] your system and be consistent and should your system be independent and decidable should you be able to mechanistically prove things in your system or some things in the system cannot be proved within the system okay so there's this whole question about what makes a good formal system mathematics lives in that realm it's just a specific case of that type of thinking you can build different systems of math you can go and change all the rules and make them into consistent independent we did that for geometry you know Euclidean geometry and Hilbert went rebuilt it and built a new formulation of geometry that was a bit more elegant and precise you can build complete systems prove your systems are complete meaning that everything that you'd want to prove in the system you can prove and then general mathematics BR not complete this is actually a very famous result called girdle's incompleteness theorem and no matter what you do you you just you just can't you just can't prove everything well there's this inductive axiom requirement and it's really fascinating how that's done so are these real or not well if I can arbitrarily construct them then they're no more real than the characters in a screenplay but those characters in a screenplay if we choose to collectively believe in them become so real that they materialize into television dramas and then an actor plays at a human being a real-life flesh and blood becomes daenerys targaryen so is it real at that point like if the number 5 is so relevant important to society that it ends up becoming flesh and blood where we build a monument to it like we build monuments to Zeus does that become real it's it's an interesting thing to think about and it's a great philosophical question of you know is math real or not there are some mathematicians there in the extreme minority who are skeptical if infinity is really a viable concept or not and it turns out that you can actually do calculus without without infinity it turns out you can do a lot of things in mathematics without the requirement of infinity it's a little bit more difficult but you know non-standard analysis does exist and so you don't even need infinity for the most part to do these things just most mathematicians would say that we'd like having it around because it's it makes a lot of things more simple similarly there's a lot of calculations you do without complex numbers but having them around actually makes it a lot easier to do certain things especially in electrical engineering and nonlinear dynamics to answer your question I don't know but I think the answer is no but that's just an opinion man no I don't remember a game called legends of the red dragon I remember Dragon Quest those were interesting games you know game development is such an amazing thing you know people tend to scoff at it be like ah you're a game developer bad like movies are so much better or you know so much more meaningful you know the last time I went to a movie theater before this plague cowled all of us shuttle them down gallop to the left of me was on her cell phone while the movie was playing the guy to the right of me I went alone was on his cell phone while the movie was playing and I'm just thinking to myself they spent millions of dollars at all this time to put this amazing narrative together to have you experience it and you're so divorced from being able to just relax and joy and watch something that you're on your cell phone while that movie is playing because you need to be somewhere else and you're only half paying attention to the movie so that storytelling medium is compromised because the consumers of that storytelling medium are no longer capable of giving it its due a storyteller is only as effective as the audience there's a reciprocal relationship it's not good enough just to be a good storyteller you have to have a good audience and they have to be in it they have to be in the moment they have to be experiencing it with you I love I love good storytellers so game developers are the last bastion of effective storytelling we have because the people who play games are absorbed in the games they're in the moment they're there they're in flow they're focused on them they care about the characters kratos isn't just a character in god of war carrados's like something people connect to relate to a great example would be in Red Dead Redemption 2 when the protagonist gets tuberculosis you're playing this character about quarter the way through the game you go from Duchess orders to go and rough somebody up to get some money back it costs on you you get tuberculosis from and throughout the game you get sicker and sicker and sicker and sicker to your play character dies of it there were legitimate people who actually talked to psychologists after this because it's so traumatized and bothered them having this person died that it they took it like like a death in the family think about that you can't tell me that storytelling hasn't hasn't evolved in that form if people have that kind of emotional reaction to something so in essence if videogames are that last medium that you have to actually be able to tell a story in a way that has a kind of impact on people you could imagine thousands of years ago before we were all perpetually distracted Homer you know the blind bard in Greece telling people about the Odyssey and Odysseus and these things and probably had that level of passion with his audience we have somehow managed to resurrect Homer in a digital medium and give that one more time to people in such a beautiful and forgiving medium and a broad and vast medium and I tell you some of the best days I've had when I've gotten off from work and I you know I finally finished all the cardinal work for the day or just sitting down with my notebook in my pen the same ones that I used a create card on Oh start writing out the plot for the game I bought legends of Valar you know there's an enhanced edition we got to fix it up and I thought a whole book on cane mechanics about another whole book on magic systems and these things like that it's like a whole academic analysis of all the different systems just so again understanding how do you actually balance these things and you know what should you think about like should you have environmental effects like air and water and these things you can drown or to hydrate or starve to death can you like go into a vacuum chamber run an errand die or poison gas and can the environment the influence by the player basic game mechanic questions you have to ask but then at the end of the day like what story do you want to tell what do you want people to feel what emotions do you want them to have you want to care about the characters I mean I sure as hell cared about some game characters from video games I played in the past so much so that I sometimes would buy action figures of them or you know things like that you know people cosplay these characters and every year they go back to them year after year I'd like to be able to create something that has kind of fervour and delight love and it's really inspiring to be able to do that and I haven't felt that same inspiration since the days I was doing mathematics but it was much more free and open and you have more tools at your disposal yeah last of us is another great example very strong emotional connections people cried in that came a lot of people cried because of last of us all right let's get the next question Charleston please tell us your opinions about Manero I mean a fluffy pony and I run into each other from time to time seems like a pretty good reasonable ecosystem I don't have any major issues with that you know they they do their thing they claim to be private they have some papers they implement some stuff I and I haven't thought of too much about them I'll probably have a stronger opinion if I ever enter the privacy coin space and then I'll be like oh well this is what they're doing wrong and here's what you need to do to fix that but at the moment you know it's I like that people are actually trying to do things whether they be Z cash or Manero or Zen cash and so forth hi Charles who pays for the next phase of development the community of BI fundraising or some magic pot somewhere it's going to be done by the Treasury system so we might as well build a really good Treasury system and then we can answer your question for you what do you think of using Godot for potentially creating legends of Valar I'm probably going to use Babylon j/s for the remake for the enhanced edition just because it'll be fast to market i and cross-platform and a game of that design would be good to do and we'll probably make that open-source and then for the actual remake I'll probably use a triple-a game engine to make it a triple a title so I'll put a large sum of money into it probably greater than five million dollars and we'll use something like Unreal 5 yeah I mean I like Godot but the problem is just unreal and unity and these other engines are orders of magnitude more capable and they come with so many batteries included yeah Walking Dead Season one two tail games yeah that was another one Clementine oh my god so well-written so well written it's like you cry when when he dies do you envision web browsers running on the blockchain I think that's one of those mash of two concepts that don't fit so well together it's not peanut butter and jelly it's oil and water you know you don't really need blockchain and web browsers together web browser is a consumer of protocols and so certainly block chains can add value into the conversation just a second got to check something so basically you can certainly add value by having blockchain as elements and actually this would be something we'll probably talk about with the panel with Vint Cerf at the summit so you add value by saying well decentralized DNS and it's a centralized way of managing route of trust and so you have different way of handling certificates and authorization for access control and then also you can talk about a content addressable network as opposed to an IP addressable network we're instead of saying I go to locations I look for files this is a very different world so right now if you're looking for a picture you have to remember what website did I see that picture on and if you don't you go to Google and you try to enter enough search words to get to that website that you think would have it okay but in a content addressable network you take the hash of that file some representation of that file then you search the graph for that thing so whenever you want to save anything you can just save the index for that particular representation that's a very different way of looking at the world you're kind of used to this with Torrance so you know you want to download a torrent you have your torrent file you find that and that gives you the instructions to reconstruct it and where it's located in these things and you can verify that the file you're getting hasn't been tampered with so it's there's a lot of different ways to do things web browsers can be a consumer of that and probably the most sophisticated web browser at the moment to live in that intersection between the blockchain world and emerging web technologies is brave they're doing a really good job Michael Sr gonna make me a villain in your new game Michael there was a doctor in legends of a lar and I will make you that doctor I will name the doctor michael lesser congratulations you have just became a character in the game I will I will even model him on you so you are now a video game character congratulations you've earned it I am not even joking 100% serious and I will pay you a small royalty for that I will send you $1 Charles II watch The Colbert Report was James Colbert no guys a douche bag why why would I want to pollute my mind with a show that is just Trump bad everything left good Trump bad everything left good Trump bad Republican bad everything left good now or the vice versa why would you want to watch a show Trump good everything left bad Trump good everything left bad like can you imagine like seriously sitting out listening to Rush Limbaugh day after day three hours a day just ask you looks like what have you gained let's say you believe everything to do to sing you've left with a hatred of a group of people and that's it you haven't learned anything new can you go start a fire can you go plant a tree can you run a greenhouse can you perform surgery have you bettered yourself in some way it has it made you a better listener are you better at interacting with people or you better your job do you have more capacity to make money all these shows exists to make you hate other people because there's money and power to be made by making you hate other people they peddle fear uncertainty disinformation propaganda techniques and they create another whoever that other is going to be named your favorite group or I guess least favorite group and then there you go they can use any catchphrase they want Boras language culture they can use make America great again they can use social justice there's just phrases and they attach motion to them and the proper way of using them is to hate whoever they're targeted at as long as you hate them you're a good member of that group you get to be a deado head or whatever they call you so no I don't watch any of that it's garbage it's junk it rots your brain it destroys you you know what you want to try and experiment turn off the television for a week and just read a biography somebody ulysses s grant Abraham Lincoln you know somebody susan b anthony pick your favorite person and pick a person that you just want to know more about randomly maybe maybe a foreign figure okay like a Mao or something controversial or not just read it Ron chernow is a great writer and see what that does to you and you know what is gonna happen if you can make it if you can participate with a family in these things if you have a wife or a husband or something read it to them in bed say tonight we're just not gonna watch TV I'm gonna grab my Kindle or my book and I'm just going to read for an hour to you and you just be amazed what happens after one week you have a conversation you're engaged you're actually saying WOW what's gonna have this person's life I did that with the George Washington biography that Ron chernow wrote you one of those fascinating people I've ever read about I learned about Washington in school and K through 12 and in university it was quite academic yeah he did this and this and he was at these battles and he this that and blah blah but I never got the real story about Sally Fairfax and his relationship with his brother and watching his brother die of tuberculosis and going to Barbados and just all of the stuff that was extraordinary and he just got this amazing three-dimensional person and at the end of all of it there was a relatability there Washington wasn't born as a paragon of men fact was quite the opposite he was defined more by his failures than by his successes and his lack of opportunity he should have been a general in the British Army they should have brought him into the ranks of the aristocracy and had they done that he would've never fought on the Revolutionary side he would have actually been the opposite instead they did everything they could to diminish and demean him to a point where turn potentially one of their greatest assets into their greatest enemy they built a nation on the back of that that's a great story so turn the TV off turn Colbert off turn all these guys off they're noise they're nobodies they're nothing if you don't watch them it's like that Simpsons episode with the advertisements that are killing people just don't look just don't look just don't look and buy a book read it and read it to a friend read it to your wife read it to somebody you'll be closer you'll have better relationship better conversations and you'll want to finish it and then once you do that you know you do do the next one and the next one and the next one and sometimes you just randomly pick people then you start talking to each other up books you find other people that do that to you become a great student of history and then you start looking at things that happen in their life which you can use in your own life and then that wisdom gap closes and life gets better I'm related to ulysses s grant Charles what a story ulysses s grant is one of the greatest American heroes we have and one of the greatest presidents we had and he was defined just like Washington in terms of his failures as much as his successes when the Revolutionary War started he would art I assume his Civil War started he was already kicked out of the army for alcoholism and his rank was captain and within just a few years he ascended to the rank of general of the army and then in 1868 became president it was an extraordinary story and really an interesting guy to look to he still think Biden will be coherent November if he's elected to be the oldest president in US history I think 78 or 79 very old and he's not in good health anybody tells you otherwise as a partisan I'm just listened to him for 10 minutes he's showing signs of dementia and it's just sad it really truly is said there were some decent people in that line I'm Andrew yang and Tulsi Gabbard and you know you can agree with them or hate them yeah but you could at least admit that they were bringing something fresh and new to the conversation and the best they can get a guy who's been around for politics for 50 years eight of the last 12 years was the number-two guy in the administration and that's change that's gonna fix everything it's gonna make everything great and better it's gonna manage the restless youth and really relate to people and connect to people whoever becomes president next has a huge task of healing the country and bringing people back together or doing the opposite of taking short term wins to further divide people for power it will take a figure of stature of ulysses s grant to bring people back together people say there's a horse that's ever been that's asinine the end of the Civil War is the worst that ever was we literally killed half a million of our fellow brethren shooting at each other in the country was cleaved in two don't tell me that that was somehow a better situation unless charged than the situation that we live in today but it took a man like Ulysses Grant that really starts stitching things back together and by the way his his predecessor Andrew Johnson was a monster you know he was a horrible president the worst president the country ever had I don't care where you said you think Trump is bad your propagandized if you believe that he is worse than Johnson was Johnson was truly the worst that we ever had so not only we have the war we had horrifically bad leadership post Lincoln and then a guy had to come in and just clean it all up see it was tough Charles could you please talk about what sets Hydra apart in terms of sharding it sets it apart because it doesn't shard it's a layer 2 protocol and that's the power of these things you want to do two things at the same time you want to have a path that if you have to shard the Ledger itself you can do that in a very explicit or implicit way implicit as sidechains explicit is what f2 is trying to do or they actually have multiple Ledger's and they're all interoperable and communicating with each other and spun up and down then you have to have a system where you can gracefully take transactions batch them and run them off chain outside of the system that's what lightning does and what Hydra is aspiring to do and so forth they are complementary so you can do both at the same time the advantage of a level 2 solution is it does not require soft and hard fork for card on them and the stake pool operators can run these channels and they're already trusted to be operators so they can reuse their pledge of bonds and these things to basically facilitate these state channels so we get that for free it's low-hanging fruit you can have competitiveness in the implementation it gives you a path to add X it gives you a path to entertain an or operability and it can scale to millions of transactions per second if you want to do that brain-dead obvious low cost super high return and you leverage years of prior results and research for these things in terms of ledger sharding super complicated the security of your system scales down to a third to a quarter you have to introduce a lot of usually trusted centralized infrastructure to bootstrap it or create fail safes as you're getting the system out and Byzantine behavior dramatically reduces the performance of the system dramatically so when everybody's honest the system is probably very fast when you have an event the system slows down that's why ghost and phantom and these other dag protocols didn't work out the way that people intended so it's not all it's made up to be in you get massive massive complexity creep into the system so if you have two options one is saying I can easily add this on it fits my consensus model I don't have to shard the base ledger and I get so much great stuff from it and it's low-cost high-return or the other I can go and have to do five years of research and figure a bunch of stuff out like f2 super complicated easy to get things wrong and I lose security embracing it and the end result is both systems will have equivalent performance probably better performance than the single shard system because you can optimize the base ledger and segregate transactions accordingly I would say Hydra is much better it's much easier it's much lower hanging fruit and that's what you get we have good system architects good scientists and their respect for the past when you're in love with your own ideas you get caught in a cycle of groupthink over and over and over and over and over and over again then at the end of the day you end up in a really bad position where you just in double down and embrace basically concepts that are counterproductive for being able to build sustainable ecosystems so we wish everybody who's doing this ledger base charting well but I think it's not the right time to do that we need another three to five years of foundational research to get to a point where it's very promising and there's certainly a lot of great approaches some people send me proposals from prominent universities asking for funding for their approaches and every now and then I get super tempted to pursue it because they're legitimately good at angles but let's not a lie to ourselves there's a year's worth a homework that has to be done and the dog is going to eat it more than once Hydra is ready to go in terms of concepts and in terms of theory it's easy to understand it's easy to layer on and it fits our topology quite well and you can implement it through a series of competing teams building competing clients they get client diversity and you can implement it in the sub million-dollar level for a lot of these proof of concepts and in the five million dollar level for our finished end-to-end product that's your complexity class your cost class and that means you can have multiple beds and then you can add more and more features like a Dex and interoperability and with Bitcoin and aetherium and you know all these types of things with that type of a system makes a lot more sense you know gradual escalation don't don't throw the whole baby out with the bathwater by the way my videos are always released under a Creative Commons license so feel free to clip cut them up repost them do whatever you guys want to do with them I don't ever make money from IP it's not my game just tell people that where you got it from and obviously don't edit them so that I peered like I'm saying something that I'm not yes you Alyssa says plant grant a slave-owner Alyssa says grant never had slaves try again completely wrong he actually married a woman who had slaves and he let him go he was against slavery from the very beginning he thought it was important so so amazing that people are so willing to completely destroy figures in history they don't meet up to today's standards then they're just horrible human beings forever and they should be forgotten and there's no wisdom to be derived there just remember that if that's the standard when it changes again all of us will be horrible human beings for future standards what if we decide that animals have human rights and so everybody who ate a steak is a murderer it could happen in the hundred years and then I guess we're all murderers and everybody should tear our statues down society changes are you scared of deep thanks defects have the potential to shatter society again with the control of the news it's very tempting to use that technology to edit people's comments to make them appear that they've said things they didn't say we already see this happening and people have caught MSNBC and CNN and other people with their hand in the cookie jar selectively editing things to make it look like somebody said the opposite of what they said really dangerous if you can make it look like they said something and people believe that because it's such a convincing fake really really really terrifying and then how do you fake it because then people say well I didn't say and they said well I can see it nobody believes it reality is getting valuable AC this is where people have been so propagandized but certainly Fox would never do that sure I probably have just cuz I pick on CNN MSNBC doesn't think that the right doesn't do its own things see you're so program that if you criticize one particular source and implies that you endorsed the other that is propaganda thinking liberate yourself free from yourself you know nuance exists in society nothing is polar there's no one side or the other side there is just objective reality and not objective reality and the people who want to control you the first victim on the pyre of control is objectivity they want to convince you there's no such meaning as objective truth everything's relative and at that point it's perfectly fine for scientists to say if you protest one way you won't catch a virus if you protest another way another cause you will because reality is no longer objective its malleable truth is just based on opinion subjective experience you know reality just made up in our own mind [Music] dressed series Drizzt Do'Urden was an RA Salvatore wrote those that's an oldie Japanese a5 Wagyu for the wind dry-aged even better I will give you that there are some amazing steaks in Japan you know one time I went I always said a hotel in Tokyo and I went to the restaurant and I had just come in from Korea I was exhausted absolutely exhausted that was my secretary at the time it was Josh Miller and Josh and I were just getting some steaks and I was just from Korea so I read it and said 60,000 yen and I was thinking Wan and I'm like Oh $60 for steak not bad okay so I got two one for him work for me cuz it comes in it is you know 120,000 yen and I'm like wait a minute this looks like it's too much this should be 120 bucks and it's like oh my god that was a $600 steak what have I done and I was like $1200 for this thing course they very sheepishly in a Japanese way silently put the check down and slide the the bill over and I said okay I guess I have to buy this that was probably the most expensive steak ever but my life it was pretty good steak but it was not a $600 steak I never made that mistake again but be very careful with your currency conversions especially when you go from Korea to Japan sometimes when you're tired your mind just doesn't work properly [Music] so your math guy thoughts on Eric Weinstein's theory of everything I'm not a physicist I'm not qualified to have an opinion on that and that was his whole point what he was talking about his theory of everything geometric unity it's so far outside of my scope of concern and studied taking you 5 years to understand what the hell he's talking about and how the only thing I can do is just say hey yeah you know do I like the guy do I think he's reasonable sure he's pretty smart you know I like Stephen Wolfram too and he's got his own theory of everything you know so I can just have faith in people believing people but I can't tell you what's heads or tails a great point on the truth is objective I just finished Jordan Peterson's 12 rules of her life and where he stresses this point yeah and his whole point is about narratives to wrote that chaos book back in the 90s and 12 rules was kind of his spiritual successor that was dumbed down and made it a little bit easier to understand it was a non academic book but yeah he's absolutely right there is objective reality and even if there isn't it's in all of our best interest to declare that there is one mathematics only works because we all agree that the rules are the way that they are and then we can build things assuming that those rules hold and we can of course decide if those rules are reasonable or not by looking if they have internal inconsistencies or so forth but at the end of the day you have to have consensus about things and some point you have to have consensus like who owns Microsoft you know who owns the house you know these are abstractions but we as a society need to agree to them and be absolute in those agreements for society to be well ordered and functioning if anybody's trying to disrupt or destroy society the first thing that they do is they attack the concept of truth and if they can get enough people on board with that you have chaos absolute chaos that's why the Russians use Internet propaganda they don't have horse the ride instead they're using asymmetrical warfare to make people not believe anything because if they don't believe anything then the authority figures the government just can't operate it slows everything down and makes everything more expensive it's basically the equivalent of a digital landmine that they're laying and information land I'm a meme landmine like for example this cop who kneeled and killed the African American the George when he was arrested everyone in the internet saying oh oh well the guy who arrested the mugshots don't match the police officer I just think of the levels of conspiratorial thinking you have to get yourself into to think that somehow the person who gets arrested for the murder is not the person who committed the murder it's like how do you even reconcile cuz the mugshot doesn't seem to look a hundred percent right compared to what you see there is that people I don't know about that it's because our whole concept of trust and truth and objectivity is so damaged that we're starting to distrust everything we see and if anything looks a little off maybe the angle is not quite right we just start saying oh no it that's not right it's not true it's not reality this is because of where we're at all the fake news the platform wars Russian trolls this that and the other there's a war on truth and objectivity and nobody trusts anything so we just kind of have to like think for ourselves and figure stuff out and the problem is that our thinking tools are atrophied if you ever really want to get some good skills on that Dan Dennett is a great author and he writes all these wonderful books on building cognitive tools intuition pumps and all these other things to give you a way of structured least thinking about the world around you the amazing Randy the skeptic Randy the magician who's a professional skeptic as another example I believe he's written some stuff too but he makes great videos on these things he's pretty old now I think he'd said his 90s but maybe he's dead I haven't looked him up in a few years but another example of that there are ways to think where you can actually if you're given all this weird information can sort things out then kind of figure out what the truth actually is or at least a reasonable approximation of it but those skills are purposefully destroyed or atrophied by the public education system by the media by propagandists by consumer advertising for good reason because if you don't have those skills you are incapable of thinking for yourself so basically it's just a game of getting you into a bucket and then they can put something in your head and they can control you whoever they is they can be a corporation they could be a government a political party a call to religion whatever it might be there's a whole bunch of people shopping for people to follow them okay and the least popular people in the world like this are the people who like objective truth and the people who build and refine skills to sort things out because they never tell you what you want to hear they never tell you the things that are satisfying and they often don't give you a complete answer to anything they use words like it depends and that's nuanced and well that situations a little complicated or there are many confounding factors or we don't entirely know and we're not exactly sure they tell you things like that and and people just want to listen to that guy they want to listen the other guy who says this is what happened this group of people this conspiracy this thing is the result of that look at the cryptocurrency space I have from my entire career in this industry told you guys over and over again trade-offs complexity science peer review it's going to take years this is going to take effort we're three years out here five years out here no one has a solution for this yet you cannot solve this problem or if you want to solve it you have to accept a trade-off that's not satisfying then my competitors many cases are saying five hundred thousand transactions per second we've solved a centralization look how amazing we are we know everything we figured out everything we're quantum this this and this and this and this buzz turn Buster and Buster and Buzz turn it is so unsatisfying to listen to me talk because I'm basically saying we got work to do you all have to grab some shovels and move forward and do stuff you listen these other guys talking they're like you get everything I'm gonna cure cancer give you a blow job make you so happy life is gonna be great for you just give me your and every I'll take care of everything else and then when they don't deliver no no I delivered or well there's this reason or this is why I can't work now or they just disappear meanwhile I'm the guy for five years been around writing papers doing stuff writing code and everybody says when Shelley we're shipping a product of its time and it shipped exactly when it needed to ship no sooner no later because it's finally ready and we're proud of it and we know it's going to do the job we claim no more no less the job we claim it is the first cryptocurrency that can truly do that it took five years of some of the brightest people in the world working together for year after year tirelessly towards that end many setbacks along the way not easy not easy and maybe a better team we're more organized team could have gotten in a few months earlier but let's be honest here it would have been two years earlier we just couldn't get it done there was too much complexity in hindsight too many things to think about and I said too many efforts to try to simplify things that that needed to be simplified in order for the system be sustainable and stable and we got there it was hard and we tried every bit of the way and every bit of the way we were basically said we're horrible iam beings were scammers we don't know what we're doing you're just a wallet you're just bad people and our competition made unlimited claims and everybody said their stuff will be ready tomorrow no it's not here steam gets taken over this happens that happens you see so the truth is not sexy objective reality is not sexy it's not sexy selling hard work it's not sexy telling you the things you don't want to hear but would you rather have the doctor that tells you you're fine or the doctor that tells you you actually do have cancer you might not want to hear that but you need to so that you can figure out what to do about it and similarly would you rather have people around that tell you the truth no matter how much it hurts and how objective it might be and it cuts in all ways or do you like the people lie to you until you sweet little lies and you get what you deserve that's like for a good one to get one to end on Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself I agree with that I agree with that thank you for being a sponsor of Zuri hack 2020 I love Zuri hack it's good to be a sponsor its best Civ games sub five so six is weird yeah you like varus oh it's a beautiful painting isn't it did I get to command and conquer remake no I haven't had time for games for a while have you talked with Rampal lately I have not you know Carol is also such a wonderful person she makes such great cookies Ron is getting old I love that man I truly do but his son has really taken over a lot and and for good reason I'm Rand is everything at Ron aspired to be and I'm very proud of Rani I think that he's a perfect successor to his dad bad perm no comment on the hair I can't come on out of hair guys come on now come on give me a good question and done okay guys here's the thing about price if you keep talking about price in my a mas I'm gonna stop doing my AMAs that's that so it's up to you you know I have no desire or inclination who the hell knows a whale could be exiting could be a random event could be market manipulation could be portfolio reallocation for somebody nobody knows I don't know I don't care to know and I'm not going to talk about it so you keep asking about price I'm gonna stop doing the a.m. eggs uh you know I'll probably have a happy middle ground where I have the admins just erase all price related comments and if they keep going on then you know what I'll find another way to talk to the community maybe I'll have you guys ask questions ahead of time and read it and I'll have the ones that aren't price related switched out but if you want a live AMA don't ask about price it's something I don't care about I have no control over and is ephemeral to the moment if somebody was watching this five years from now would they care about the price that it was today did it matter if you're watching some historical film on Bitcoin file that was made five years ago do you particularly care that Bitcoin was at $1100 that day come on you know not I'm ending this to build stuff and make things great if you're in this to get rich go to a different channel there are plenty of people who talk about that and that's their entire reason to exist and you can go and sell your ADA when it gets to a high point and if you made a profit go buy something nice with it and then convince yourself you're real smart and you'll still be a slave to the various I'm attempting to liberate you from okay if that's the meaning of your life and that's what you aspire for and you'll think you're a big human being because you got lucky or you think you're smart you made a little bit of money off this magic thing called crypto you have completely missed the entire point of the life work of many people in our industry and I'm sad for you because you're the very same people that are chaining yourselves to a desk to basically be slaves for the rest of time that's life you want to live as those are your priorities I don't have any time for you I really don't my life is much better without even thinking about your existence Charles appending a list of yous that by John William Waterhouse it is a Waterhouse it's from 1910 I think I can't remember the exact date but somewhere right there in the turn of the century would you ever collaborate again with Vitalik Buren I don't think so you know vitalik he just has a different way of doing things and we work very differently we think about the world very differently we prioritize things very differently he's quite obsessed with never dying and never growing old you know think he's even donated to Life Extension Tech we just look at the world very differently I like him as a person and I think that he's a fundamentally good human being and I think that he will continue to do great things and the people who follow him will be rewarded for that loyalty but because we think differently and we do things differently I don't think we can collaborate Karev productively sometimes Paul McCartney has to break up from John Lennon and they can both go on and do stuff his pickle ripped the peak of comedy I don't know that vat of acid episode was pretty [ __ ] amazing I like the African mass in the back of the wall are they legit from African tribes yeah actually that's agony and mask the circular one the central mask is a Nordic one then I have Venetian mass my Celtic mask and some Nepali knees mass I have mass from all over the world okay one question to end it what should we have Cu or CSU who's your team I was a buffalo guys cu-boulder I went there unfortunately during the Hawkins era so we didn't have a good time but yes we always beat CSU go see you looking for that one good question ended sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't favorite color is black we like crypto mom come on give me something good okay guys not seeing anything I really like okay all right well have a good night everybody you know it's a lot of fun I always enjoyed these talks you know two hours we get to go through a bunch of stuff anything you guys want sometimes cardio sometimes something else but you're a great community and I do have a lot of fun sorry about being so snarky about the price it's just that it's just you know it adds no value to anything and it doesn't really it's really nothing we can talk about and I'm as qualified as than anybody else to understand why these things go up and down we have good days we have bad days some days they're bad day some days are good days I've been through many of them because I've been in the space a long time the best days are the days when you actually accomplish something you build something that's never been built before you inspire people and you make people believe that they actually can take control of their own lives and you see them do that small steps but meaningful ones and a thousand small meaningful steps turn into quite a journey so that's what we ought to focus on and that's the point of things that I do and if you don't like those well as I've mentioned there's plenty of people in the world that talk differently and they'll tell you exactly what you want to hear and you'll wake up one day and realize you're in the same place and you won't have anybody there because the ones that listen to the other guys they they are somewhere else until next time my friends Cheers