Surprise AMA 10/27/2020

00:00 to 1:36:18

hi everybody charles hoskinson here live from warm sunny colorado always warm always sunny sometimes colorado actually it's kind of cold and gloomy although the snow is starting to melt a little bit boy it was a terrible white house uh white white uh white out when i was uh driving down from cheyenne to here it's been a tough few days so a few updates and you know what i guess we get to finally do an ama how about that surprise ama yay surprise ama well hello khalid from morocco lovely country a lot of stuff going on committee just signed the latest change management document i was the last in the chain so i signed it today for changing the d parameter from 0.52 2.5 that means we are just about to cross the threshold here in a little bit for d to fall below 5 which means more than half of all the blocks will be made by the community not the obft nodes that's a major milestone and at this current rate of velocity it looks like d will decrement to zero around march so lots to do lots to talk about product update two days we'll uh go ahead and talk about that but it crossed my desk today and i was really happy and excited about that and it seemed like yesterday that d was equal to one and people were complaining that we delayed it by an epic and now we're almost at 50 percent uh for those of you who want parameter level changes k level changes uh they are coming and there's an enormous internal conversation about it and we've written up a powerpoint presentation and a philosophy document about why things were designed the way that they're designed my chief scientist has put an enormous amount of time into this agolos is very passionate about this particular topic and what i'm going to do is similar to the security video that i did where i did an hour and a half discussion about a best practice for security i'm going to actually do a screencasted video where i talk about uh this philosophy document and i'm going to read the entire document with annotations with you guys and kind of talk through it it might end up being quite a long video it could be several hours long but i think it's really important to talk around the design philosophy of this you know it's kind of funny everybody when they see a cryptographic paper or math paper uh they tend to just say okay you guys figure that out uh no one's an expert in cryptography or math and you don't really get strong opinions about it but game theory uh despite the fact that the topics as complex and in some cases more complex you tend to get a lot of opinions and everybody's a game theorist so there was enormous amount of thought that went into the design of the system the parameters of system everything from the reward functions to other things and it's very important that we explain that thought process in as detailed of a way as possible at least the philosophy behind it then i feel that the community is in a really good position to start working on the change management it is my position that i'd love to see k largely increased i do think that the software needs some improvements to get there especially partial delegation delegation portfolios and some enhancements into the operation of staking especially i'd love to see the existence of hybrid wallets where you have a cold part a hot part and we've had a lot of conversations about that and we will present some of the progress in that matter at the product updates if not this october certainly in november a lot of commercialization going along a lot of things going on and flowing around and you know commercial teams working hard as i mentioned we have a lot of deals in the pipeline the wyoming event was half political half sales we were really looking into e-voting and we had very productive conversations along those lines it is my goal that cardano e-voting software is used in political primaries and my hope is for eventually to be used in municipal and state and eventually federal elections and then in national elections for countries like ethiopia mongolia and other places now there is a long road long long road to get there and many little victories that have to begin but this event wyoming was kind of the opener into that conversation there were seven independent parties at the independent national convention and we had a chance to talk the leadership of many of them we will also engage in conversation with the libertarian party leadership as well and at the very least we could talk about e-voting and also blockchain-based voting for primaries that would be great start and we'll also look into the state of wyoming for that as well so we'll you know tell you guys about that in time we've already gotten a lot of inquiries about e-voting software we tend to get them along with the prism inquiries it's actually quite easy to start conversations but there are a lot of security properties that are very important like end-to-end verifiability hybrid ballots where you have both a digital and a paper ballot uh delegation mechanics as well as privacy mechanics that are you know interesting on a case-by-case basis so we'll keep chipping away at that a lot of gogan stuff to talk about but i'm going to reserve all of that for two days from now for the product update we're right in the middle of all gogan metadata was the very first part of it we already have some commercialization the platform as a result of metadata more to come and then obviously lots of smart contract stuff to come so um this update and the november update are going to be very excuse me gogan focused uh and also a lot of alternatives as well we're still on schedule for an hfc event in i think november or december i can't remember but that's going to be carrying a lot of things related multisig token locking there's some ledger rule changes so it has to be an hfc event and that opens up a lot of the windows for gogan foundations as well as voting on chain so fund three will benefit very heavily from that and we're right in the guts of daedalus right now building the voting center the identity center qr code work all this stuff it's a lot of stuff you know the cell phone app was released last week kind of an early beta it'll go through a lot of rapid iterations every few weeks we'll update it google play is a great foundation to launch things on because it's so easy to push updates to people automatically so you can rapidly iterate and be very agile in that in that framework and you know we've already had 3 500 people involved heavily in the uh innovation management platform uh idea scale and we've got numerous bids from everything from john buck and the sociocracy movement to uh to others and we're a lot of people want to help us improve that and we're going to see steady and systematic growth there we're still chipping away at product marketing lisa is uh she's doing a good job meet with her two three times a week and right now it's oroboros or horse or boris we're doing competitive analysis of war boris versus eos tasos al goran f2 and polka dot we think that's a good set of people we think we have a really good way of explaining it david orr has already made some great content we're going to release that soon alongside some other content and we'll keep chipping away at that we also just hired a creative director for i o global his name's adam incredibly experienced creative director he's worked for mercedes-benz and dozens of other companies he does very good work and he's been doing this for well over 20 years and so the very first set of things he's going to do is work with commercial and marketing on product marketing uh so in addition to building great content where hope is make that content as pretty as possible and we have rod heavily involved in that as well to talk about distribution channels and see if we can amplify the distribution message and really get a lot of stuff done last thing to mention oh yeah ios for catalyst we're working on that we submitted it to the apple store the ios store but it takes a little longer to get approval for that than it does with google play but that's been submitted and it's whenever apple approves it or not takes a little longer for cryptocurrency stuff in them uh wikipedia kind of rattled the cage a little bit uh through an intermediary we got contact with jimmy wales um larry sanger the other co-founder also reached out to me and the everpedia guys reached out to me so here's where we stand we have an article it has solidified uh it's currently labeled as unreliable and you should not believe the things that are said in it which is david gerard's work if you look at the edits we will work with the community and try to get that article to a fair and balanced representation of cardano and especially after the product marketing comes through we clearly explain the product i think the cardona article can be massively strengthened i've told rod to work with some specialized people to try to get that done but we are going to uh work very hard at a systematic approval campaign for all of the scientific articles related to blockchain technology in the cryptocurrency space they're just terrible if you go to the proof of work article the proof of stake or all these things they're just terrible they're not well written uh they're out of date and they don't reflect an adequate sampling of the science so i did talk to my chief scientist aguilos uh and uh what we're gonna do is reach out to the scientific counterparts that most of the major cryptocurrency uh groups that are doing research and see if they want to work with us at an industry-wide effort to systematically improve the scientific articles in our industry uh so that there are a fair and balanced representation of what the current state of the art are the criticisms the trade-offs as well as the reference space and of course obviously we'll do quite well in that respect because we've done the science and we're the inheritor of it but it's a shame because when people search proof of stake on google usually wikipedia results are highly biased we care about wikipedia because google cares about wikipedia amazon cares about wikipedia if you ask alexa who is charles hoskinson the reason why alexa knows is because it's reading directly from the wikipedia page if i didn't have a wikipedia page alexa would know that so if somebody says alexa what is cardano it's going to read directly from the wikipedia page and you know and we can either just pretend that reality doesn't exist or we can accept it and we as a community working with partners in the broader cryptocurrency community can universally improve the quality of cryptocurrency pages uh there's been a pattern of commercial censorship on wikipedia for cryptocurrencies in general since bitcoin itself in fact i think the bitcoin article is actually taken down once back in might have been 2010 or 2009 but uh you know basically wikipedia has not been a friend of cryptocurrencies uh that's why everpedia exists and actually their founders reached out to me and i talked to them over twitter through pms and we agreed to actually do a podcast so i'm going to do a stream yard stream with these guys and they'll come on talk all about everpedia and what they do and how they are and we'll kind of go through the challenges that they've encountered and you know how their platform works and so forth and obviously if they want to ever leave that terrible ecosystem eos and come to the holy great land of cardano we'd be there to help them out but at least they can tell the world how amazing uh their product is and also the challenges they're having to overcome we've also been in great contact with larry sanger he's going to do an internal seminar at some point with with us and talk about some protocols he's been developing since he left wikipedia specifically to decentralize knowledge management and have a truly decentralized encyclopedia so i'm really looking forward to that and i hope that presentation gives us some inspiration as an ecosystem of things we can do now uh that's a great piece of infrastructure regardless and after we learn a lot more about it and we talk to a lot of people in ecosystem if we can't get people to move on over it would be really good to see through idea scale in the innovation management platform for people to utilize the dc fund to build their own variant of wikipedia on cardano so in the coming months will certainly be funding available if you guys are so passionate about this particular problem uh that you want to go solve it then i'd be happy to play elon musk with the hyperloop and write a white paper on a protocol design and really give a good first start and then you guys can go and try to commercialize that technology as cardinal native assets and completely smart contracts in addition to other pieces of technology that have to be brought in to make it practical so right now we're just let's talk to everybody phase and we'll talk to the pedia guys we're going to talk to larry and we're going to see whoever else is in this game and of course we have to accept the incumbency as it is so we're we're working with obviously the wikipedia side to improve the quality of not only our article but all of the articles and the scientific side of things so that there's a fair and accurate representation of information one of the reasons why i'm so concerned about this is that i am very worried that cardano projects will get commercially censored like we were commercially censored so yes we do have a page but it took five years to get there and we're a multi-billion dollar project with hundreds of thousands of people if you guys are doing cutting-edge novel interesting stuff i don't want your experience to be the same as ours where you have to wait five years for your project to get a page even after government's adopted that's absurd no one should be censored ever so this is very well a fight for the entire ecosystem the entire community not just cardinal but all cryptocurrencies bitcoin ethereum and cardano have all faced commercial censorship and article deletions during their uh tenure so i don't want you guys to go through that now i'm hoping we can prove that situation but you know you don't put all your eggs in one basket and frankly the time has come for wikipedia to be fully decentralized and liberated from a centralized organization and massively variable quality in the editor base uh if legends of valor has a page but cardano didn't have one until recently titcoin a pornography coin from 2015 that's deprecated no one uses it has a page but chrono couldn't get one there's something seriously wrong with the quality control mechanism and we need to improve that so it'll get done okay okay okay okay let's get to your questions and the advantage i have with this new software is i can just click on your question and it will come up for everybody hi charles anything you guys are working on in the medical spectrum so many of you know that my dad is a doctor my brother is a doctor my uncle's a doctor they've treated hundreds if not thousands of covet patients but now my uncle's actually infectious disease doctor over hawaii and dad and brother both internists their primary care physicians so medicine's been a family a long time my grandfather was an ob gyn he went to medical school i think in the 1950s and he delivered thousands of kids over his career so it's near and dear to my heart and i do a lot of agriculture work these days and eventually that kind of dovetails into biotechnology at some point you're genetically engineering plants at some point you're doing all kinds in a chicanery in a lab in fact i am just getting into mycology and i have started growing mushrooms on my farm with a mycologist that actually left california lived in tahoe and moved in with me and the mycologist is actually figuring out how to grow lion's mane and rishi and oyster mushrooms and other such things and actually i love sell some supplements for that so if anything i'm learning a lot about ag tech and i'm learning a lot about biotech through that process and we of course service lots of contracts or bid on lots of contracts throughout the world that involve ag tech or supply chain now the most obvious intersection of cardano and blockchain technology to the medical industry is the transmission of access rights for medical records blockchains are not good medical record databases but they are very good audit logs and permission logs so you have a situation where you have an emr an electronic mechanical record system let's say it's open vista or epic or whatever and let's say you are in the state of virginia and you go skiing in wyoming and jackson hole and you roll down the mountain break your leg and now you have uh you know you know a compound fracture in your femur quite serious okay and you lose consciousness at the emergency medicine they take you into the er and you're out the doctor at the er doesn't know who you are he's never seen you before he's never met you might not even know your name let's say you didn't have your driver's license on you and somebody just found you okay so there's a problem of how does that physician know your story to treat you properly now in the united states virginia to wyoming you know maybe we can broker something out now let's extend the story let's say that you are skiing on a mountain in an african nation and you are found a day later unconscious you're still around but not but barely how does a doctor in africa know who you are and get your medical records what does the guy call and say okay this is so and so in tanzania uh and i found this person i think it's john smith can you send over all of his medical records so i know uh you know all the relevant information to treat them it's really hard to get that okay because there's no trust in that relationship so blockchain is great because you can broker identity and you can broker access control and you can create all kinds of protocols in certain events third parties can be entrusted to make judgments of whether things get brokered or not so they can look at a record and they say oh jane smith is the person you contact and they call up say i have john smith here he's unconscious here's a picture of him here's what's happened i need to have you give me authorization for his medical rig so oh of course and then all of a sudden the doctor can now send over all the files and give the doctors their access to those pieces of information so they can treat you okay very important medical record portability and i think that alone justifies blockchain's participation now the actual storage of the medical records the access control and change management that audit log makes a lot of sense which doctors and nurses and other medical personnel touched your medical records how did they touch them when did they touch them these things should be auditable time stamped and immutable but the actual records themselves are very pervasive like if i get body scans with cat scans and mris the data files would be in the gigabytes perhaps terabytes with future imaging technology and genetic sequences and these other things you could easily look at a petabyte of data about a patient 20 years from now it makes no sense to put that in an immutable format on a blockchain so uh we will definitely look at medical records brokering and change in access control i think that's quite non-controversial and the easiest way to have that discussion is probably through a standards body so one area that will probably because we're now a member of that standards body is the hyper ledger foundation under the linux foundation the hyperledger group we'll probably see if we can propose a hyperledger project or some standard about access control and perhaps even a dsl to manage the negotiation and movement of medical records and we can make that class across blockchain watch fantastic fun guy great movie from heck yeah that's uh paul stamets and the other guys and paul is a great guy it's amazing to me that he couldn't get distribution for that movie and there are so many magical properties of mushrooms quarter steps are great for the treatment of diseases and they're a great pesticide you know lion's mane is a nootropic and it can regenerate neurons and there's some peer-reviewed studies about that for the treatment of dementia uh it's quite uh it's quite amazing and it's just in its infancy mycology in terms of its mainstream adoption and then actually psilocybin has been shown by johns hopkins a very prominent medical school and hospital to actually have very positive clinical effects for the treatment of depression and addiction with almost no side effects if the right set in setting is done so good vibes there from faraji has anyone affiliated with you reached out to anyone affiliated with joe rogan experience i think guys we have to be in the right position for a show of the size scope and scale of joe rogan the the worst thing that can happen to us is we go on joe rogan everybody loves the episode it's highly rated but then there's no net to capture the millions of viewers and bring them into the cardinal ecosystem so we have to kind of get to a level of scale and progress that joe rogan makes sense now brock pierce's campaign manager brittany kaiser and matt mckevin a guy who put on the independent convention are going on the joe rogan experience i'm very good friends with brittany and matt i've known them for years ben gortzel went on the joe rogan experience and so i know a lot of people that know joe and it's not a matter of access we can easily talk to them it's more of a matter of when are we right and that's why i say rogan after gogan because you know we can then talk about the magic of voltaire and you know cardano as an ecosystem and all the things we're doing and we can show these africa deals we've done and so forth it's a much richer deeper conversation than we will do this we aspire to do this or this is coming online soon it's actionable and we can create a broad net to capture lots of people and keep those people and keep going back to that channel so we'll get there okay great speech in wyoming how do you see the power exchange from politics to crypto playing out what will the key battles be i often talk about politics because crypto is politics crypto has to have an opinion on how your money works how your identity works how your property works kind of silly to say it doesn't there crypto is not a political at all the whole reason cryptocurrencies exist is in the absence of political progress or in the existence of political failure okay they're not a status quo mechanism database technology is a statical mechanism as in our existence we tend to generate lots of data people have to go capture that label that retrieve that the law the more technology we have the more data we generate the more human interactions we have the more data we generate so it's an organic natural evolution of database technology there's no real philosophy behind that it's just you know part of existing right more people you have the more food you have to grow you know stuff like that okay so that class of technology is not necessarily political it's more just a consequence of life crypto is political it came as a direct result of the failure of the 2008 banking crisis and the political response to that uh banking crisis and a strong belief that if we do nothing the money that's in our pockets is going to eventually become useless and worthless we'll have monetary collapse whether you believe that or not there was a strong belief in that for the bitcoin and that's why bitcoin evolved so quickly and got so much traction adoption identity management data surveillance all of these things people are getting very concerned about facebook's power and you know their ability to platform people and what they know about you the same for google so there's a strong overlap on your ownership of data your ownership of your identity your ownership your money and all these concepts are starting to pull together into a political coalition and cryptocurrencies carry a particular brand of philosophy why must you be political because if we get real adoption governments will attempt to ban these systems so if you take a position of stay political because it hurts the price if we get political if we are a political these systems will be either shut down which case your price goes to zero because you can't use it anymore or it'll become co-opted in which case yes it may still have a value proposition but it's of no use and utility for what it was invented to do if you just want the technology without the principles then just wait 10 years and cbdc's will do this for you as will advancements in securities technology so when we start seeing blockchainification of the regulators the infrastructures like nasdaq new york stock exchange and the central banks all of the things that cryptocurrencies do will go into legacy system but you'll have no privacy you can be shut out at a click of a button your transactions can be taken from you or your money can be taken from you at a click of a button no right to recourse uh and obviously you're at the women will of service providers so the service providers will have total control of the fees that you pay don't like the fees you have no control it's monopolistic okay if you want an alternative that's cryptocurrencies if we're not political those alternatives will be regulated out of existence and will not be lawful and the only options you have are the same five people who you all throughout your entire life to begin with but now they're just better at screwing you so we have to be involved as a community about these things we have to think about these things and if you don't agree with that i don't think you're getting it i really don't any movement on key adidas i did talk to ben gortzel he sent me a giant email about it i still have yet to reply to it if i reply to it today i won't get home till 7 8 7 pm but i think i might actually take him up on that uh yes i absolutely do want to do something with that in fact his son is doing some really interesting work and automate if they're improving in ai that nice intersection and there's a friend of his sons who's like a world top guy based in prague who's doing this did a seminar for us in at iohk so yeah we will definitely do something but that's not that's a 2021 thing and i'll make a whole announcement once we're ready to talk about it how's the lambo in the snow put the cover on it threw in the towel lately i'll drive it a little bit i just got it back oil pump went out okay so the only way this question from mr d charles any chance modifying protocol parameters gives small pools a better chance of breaking even with hosting costs yes k can increase and hypothetically it could increase profit margins but let's say you don't have a lot of pledge you're a small pool the only way you're going to make money is if people delegate to you so it's not good enough to just increase natively k or reduce the pledge requirements you will you need marketing you need the capacity to get people to delegate to you and right now we live in a competitive equilibrium where it's all or nothing i have 1200 choices i can click only one tile yes i can create more than one wallet it's a lot of work to do that i have to manage more keywords most customers don't do that when you have friction points so the key is not only a k increase but it's also going to be changing the competitive dynamics to become cooperative and forming coalitions and delegation portfolios by a partial depletion we're working on that it's actually a very difficult feature to implement because the way that we designed the wallet was designed with a set of beautiful assumptions which made the wallet mathematically pure and made debugging and testing great so the only option we have with the current architecture is to replicate individual wallets under the hud so instead of some sharded wallet you actually have to run 100 instances or 50 instances or however many pools you have that seems like a lot but it turns out the wallet's so efficient that there are ways of doing that that's not problematic so i had benchmarks done that demonstrated we could comfortably run a daedalus instance with 100 wallets and not have a slowdown in your ability to turn on the wallet your ability to spend receive funds the listing of stake pools and there's an enormous amount of room for optimization and the only slowdown would be wallet recovery but there are ways to dramatically speed that up by about an order of magnitude so uh we are working on that the problem is that multi-asset extended utxo and plutus these types of things are in front of that uh for uh for the wallet back end so i have two choices i can either work on hybrid wallets and partial delegation or i can work on multi-asset and plutus and extend it to utxl so commercially speaking i think it's more valuable to the ecosystem to focus on multi-asset plutus and extended utxo than it is to finish off the tale of partial delegation i understand how frustrating that is it's frustrating for me and there are many things i want to do but that's the problem with going parallel and having sometimes bottleneck teams and addressdia is one of them so you just have to make trade-offs and compromises and there's really no way i can add more people to that team we're already at the law of diminishing returns any other developer i add in we can't parallelize the work and we're just going to work our way through it so we'll talk about that in much more detail at the product summit the product update whatever the hell we call these things in october and the one in november but we are aware of it we know what to do and you guys are just going to hang in there now one thing mr d even if k is increased and we have delegation portfolios you are a small business when you are a pool operator which means you still have to have a relationship with your customers you still have to advertise you still have to go out there and get people to delegate to you and most businesses fail so no matter what we do with protocol parameters what we do with features under the hood it's always going to be the case that if you're not a good business person you're not a good business person and you're not going to succeed the job of these guilds the job of good technology is to make sure that you have support advice and best practices that help you get where you need to go and you don't necessarily have to do it all yourself but in a day a business is a business and you you can be a mcdonald's franchisee mcdonald's will tell you a lot about how to sell hamburgers and make fries and these other they give you a business system and you have a great brand uh but if you put it in the wrong location if you're running a really bad way uh obviously that franchise is going to go under michael lesser says where are you on the certification of spos by the way i got some t-shirts from you michael i'll show them off i don't know t-shirts but sweatshirts um the certification of sbo staple operators i think it's great thing for the excuse me for the cardo foundation to get involved in to create a certification course obviously i don't feel that certification should be compulsory meaning you must be certified to be a stake pool operator but what i can do if the foundation creates a certification is i can visually show that certification in the metadata of daedalus and your roy can do the same so maybe the tile appears slightly differently like a different color or there's something around it or something like that and i think there should be a big diversity of certifications so a baseline certification to show that you know what you're doing but then specialized certifications show that you understand operational security so you you can keep your keys and other things secure and also qualitative certifications which show that you have a track record and reputation or you're doing things benefit network like you're running relays or other such things so the foundation can do a lot of that and fred and i we meet every week and it hasn't come up yet in our conversations but we have historically talked about this with the foundation and i think they're the perfect entity to do that charles do you have covet 19 no there's just been a lot of wildfires out here the air quality in colorado is terrible absolutely terrible some of the worst in the united states right now same for california uh there's been over a million acres burned as a consequence of the uh the wildfires did you hear about vossel being in the hospital i hope he gets well asap i did not i will immediately contact him no one told me thank you justin vossel's a very good friend of the project and he's been a good man do you have a favorite horror film since halloween is around the corner uh event horizon i think is just a great space uh but actually every halloween i try to watch the old simpsons treehouse of not the new ones or junk but you like the the ones in the first 10 seasons when conan o'brien was a writer absolutely amazing so much fun from lance thomas charles i have friends on st helena island uk uh they have problems with slow internet because uh their remote internet is quite expensive there i was on holiday there i have to pay 20 pounds for 100 megabytes well first off it's really hard to get to saint helena jose helena is right in the middle of the atlantic ocean america europe it's right in the middle and the uh its claim to fame is that napoleon was exiled twice the first time he was exiled a little closer to europe the second time they didn't want to take the risk of him escaping so they put him on saint helena which i think is the most remote island in the world it's further away from anything else than anything else so the i think the english government owns it but it's just like this small little island middle of damn now where it's really hard to get to i think you have to take a ship to get there or charter a private flight and obviously they don't have good infrastructure and it's more like a charity project of the uk government to maintain that island so i once actually priced out what it would cost to build out infrastructure and an island called tuvalu which is a small island nation and actually i think it would be equivalent in the costing to build up proper modern infrastructure to saint helena so unfortunately the trade-off for the population's not quite where it needs to be if they were an independent nation and they could do certain cool things maybe that conversation could be entertained but the bigger solution for their internet issue is starlink and i think that they can get coverage there quite easily and it would provide very high speed very cheap internet there was plans to launch an internet satellite they do have a high altitude satellite that services them but as you pointed out very expensive satellite hey i think uh tristan is the most remote island on earth not saying hello we all have to agree say helen is in the middle of god damn nowhere and if it's not the most remote island it's it's up in the top five or ten i'm literally that is the place you put people that you just want them to disappear from history which is why they put pulling in there by the way movie dune is coming yes it is from danny velanu the guy who did the uh movie arrival and he also was a director for blade runner 2049 which is one of my favorite movies and it's going to be amazing it looks great i think it's a multi-part movie and danny delaney is the director for doom i think he's going to be the guy who actually brings it to life and all the things he's done are the things necessary to get there it was kind of like peter jackson with lord of the rings he was the man of his times and danny is the man of his times what is my chinese zodiac sign i was born 1987 the year of the rabbit i am a rabbit silly rabbit from bill gates good to have you here bill are you going to play cyberpunk i'm assuming you're referring to the cyberpunk video game that's coming out uh with keanu reeves and all these other guys it looks very interesting i wish i had time for video games i don't even have time to read about them much less play them so i don't know it's gonna it's gonna be fun charles thoughts on the recent beef between justin sun and file coin was justin calling it an exit scam i don't know i heard that uh they had a difficult launch it is always difficult launching a cryptocurrency so i'm not going to judge anybody for that uh but you know when you raise hundreds of millions of dollars and there's a lot of high expectations you have to do things really carefully a lot of stuff could have went wrong with shelley a lot of stuff could have gone wrong with byron and frankly a lot of stuff can go wrong with gogan it took years of planning careful thought and execution to get it out there and there's only a few people have so far done that really well in our industry so we wish him well and we we hope for the best and we'll see what happens do you think trump actually had coveted recovered in two days i think trump had coped for about a week longer than he let on i had a friend tell me that trump had coronavirus that saturday before the diagnosis on thursday and i said well that's very interesting uh but i didn't believe him and then i heard about the diagnosis on thursday and this particular person is pretty credible person he was very serious about it so i think he had it probably the following the prior week and they hospitalized him during the inflammation phase not the viral phase and they'd been treating him previously and so they just wanted to make sure that he recovered from the that phase because that's the phase that kills you and after it looked like everything looked great then they discharged him and then he suddenly had a miraculous recovery very quickly i don't think there's any reality where he lied about having coronavirus a because there's no fact pattern to support that the super spreader event uh was the uh amy barrett um nomination and uh there were other events that he was at and many of those people who attended those events got coronavirus including the former governor of new jersey chris christie so i i don't think there's any merit there and also to create a conspiracy where doctors are willing to risk their career lying that he has coronavirus at walter reed you know that whole medical team um also the uh dr fauci at the nih not exactly a big trump fan did review his um his medical records as well when they were clearing him uh to uh to go and attend the debate so i think he had it i just think he probably had a little bit longer than he let on which means that he actually did the debate with biden while being infected with coronavirus charles i come here often and i never get noticed is this even really live cry face cry face cry face well it is actually live belial it is live just for you from jonas rocker at what point does this con man tell you who hired him to work on cardona [Laughter] oh my god con man you know we're writing software every single day we're pushing every single day there's no conspiracy here the history of the project is clear it's sitting on the cardano foundation website and there's audit reports and all these other things told everybody all the key facts it wasn't a very large contract total size of the distribution of about 70 million of which we got half we've probably spent about 100 million dollars and i uh and i took 36 million in it was it was a loser of a deal from the cash side of the matter um but that's okay you know we're here until the job gets done and we'll keep going until voltaire and gogan are where they need to be and obviously the network is fully decentralized and it's well on the road to do that we're 50 decentralized as for con man like what did we say we were going to do that we didn't do i from where i come from you take project financing to go on a five year journey and you say you're going to do research and write code and build an ecosystem it was a pretty good deal the eos people paid four billion dollars they're below that the cardano people paid 72 million they're a lot ahead of that we have real world use utility and adoption already we're just getting started and we're going to have a fully decentralized ecosystem sometime next year and we'll have a renewal of that contract you guys know who's going to contract it or the community will we'll be in a position where the entire cardano community uh is uh is going to be able to decide the future of the project and you're damn right i'm going to come and say cardona 2025. here's where we should go what should we do and every holder of ada gets to decide that who was the prior contractor ultimately was the people who paid to build cardano and there were 9 900 and i think 14 of them they lived in japan and other places and people told them this is where we're going to go what we're going to do and you know and you want to go on this crazy ride they said yes and you know what they did it turned out really well for him didn't it we have an ecosystem but i'm a con man you're a troll you know and this is what you people do you listen to chico crypto and all these other people you get your head so screwed on wrong and then you just think you know everything and you never can actually look at a basic fact pattern we followed the paul halmos style of development back in 2015 we said we care about building a protocol for economic identity for the developing world we really care about that and here are the things we need here are the design principles scalability interoperability sustainability and we're going to follow first principles approach we're going to do years worth of research the research will guide an engineering agenda the engineering agenda will conclude when we have the ability to have programmable transactions governance and self-evolution and full decentralization we are almost done with full decentralization smart contracts are imminent you know the platform's evolving very rapidly in that respect and it'll close out in a reasonable period of time and catalyst you guys are already voting you can download a cell phone app for it so over time i'd say probably six months we'll see the platform will be in a position where the people who founded it the emergos and the cardano foundations and the iohks will be able to come back and say here's the vision to get it to the next level not let's go aspire to do something but this is how we get a billion users for the developing world and we drive real use utility adoption and also immunize the system against emerging threats like quantum computation and so forth and the very fact that we have a community to ask and vote means we did the job right we went from nothing zero community members no product no science to something so elegant and complex that it is the most advanced cryptocurrency in the world with the most sophisticated science and code base and a community informed and capable enough to make decisions about complex topics of evolution and in five years time in the most competitive environment and we're in the top 10 among thousands of options and have consistently been the top 15 since we launched what's the scam sir honestly the scam is chico crypto and these other guys molten tire monster number three who didn't like us and he decided to take a very negative view of us and so what did he do made a bunch of videos which turned out to be all lies every single one of them and now that we've launched shelley and it actually looks like we're going to pull off this whole thing getting a lot more quiet these days because he knows that he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and all the acolytes that listen to him they can come to my channel come to my show and complain and complain and complain call me a con man but you guys you notice this they never ever answer where does the con man come from this is a broader and bigger problem in our democracy in in free society people are having real human trouble understanding truth from fiction misinformation fake news false information propaganda it is eroding our critical thinking skills and our ability to actually assess truth from fiction coronavirus with the litmus test of that you hear all this stuff about coronavirus all this stuff okay and then you say okay critical thinking what a framework do i need to look at the world to know what's true and what's not true you have to make personal decisions soon enough there are vaccines coming there are four that are in the phase three clinical trials that are very promising the astrozenica the johnson johnson the mederina and the pfizer vaccines there's going to be all this data and evidence that's presented do you believe they're safe and effective it's your decision unless your government forces you to take it at some point whether it be at the end of this year where there'll be a hundred million doses for at-risk populations or in the summer of next year when it's available to general public you're going to have to make that decision so i'm not going to tell you what to do i'm not going to take a position on it but i'm asking you directly what do you need to know for you to believe that's safe and effective are you just going to outsource that entire decision to a trusted third party maybe it's a radio jockey maybe it's a friend over the internet maybe it's the media maybe it's a doctor you know that you trust or you're going to sit down think about it yourself that's one decision then who do you vote for that's another decision when you hear something on the media the news and they tell you something do you believe it or not why why not so you have this guy he calls me a con man doesn't give you any evidence for the matter i know where he's coming from because i know this question it's origin it came from multar monster number three uh and really you say okay well why do you believe what you believe he can't answer that why because he actually doesn't know where that comes from he just took something someone else said and parroted it because thinking is hard here's the problem all the products i sell require critical thinking you being a member in the cardone community that's not free it's hands-on we got voting stuff we got staking and delegation you got to know how to be your own bank you don't have to know how to be your own identity okay now there's tremendous liberation and freedom and magic that comes from uh that power that superpower which your entire life you have not had you could be an mit astrophysicist you can be a brilliant doctor you can be the pope and guess what you still do not on average have control over your property your identity your voice your vote your bank okay even ahead of state there's something they don't control first time in human history that magic is being systematically handed to you as a person but the caveat is you got to know what you're doing so you know people say i spend so much time on trolls i don't really care about the trolls my skin is so thick at this point i can't even feel it what i care about is the critical thinking deficit because i want cardano to succeed i want this ecosystem to survive and thrive and grow to a billion people and i have to ask myself what are the consequences of this ecosystem thriving and growing to a billion people and how do i avoid it becoming co-opted by cults of personality by strong men by leaders how do we build in checks and balances only by a tireless group of people who are capable of critical thinking and making decisions for themselves will you be able to succeed and get to where we need to go and human race evolve getting the next level okay so this is not easy and i focus on it from time to time and when i see these curious things like from jonas rocker they saw your con man it's like okay well you tell me you know where did we screw people where do we steal from people these types of things it just shows me that there's a lot of work to do and we as a community have to stay very vigilant about it now the good news is that it's all there there are books and videos and all these things about how to think how to solve problems there's a great specialization on coursera that's just about nothing but problem solving if you go to coursera.org type in the the problem solving there's all these classes that you can take there's tons of free content on critical thinking and data analysis and understanding statistics there's all these books that talk about how to interpret reality in the world around you there's even classes on fake news it is your duty to consume these things i'm not going to pay you no one will pay you but if you want to use cryptocurrencies and actually take ownership of your life you have to develop a mindset this way recently the great randy died he was a magician but he was also known as a skeptic the amazing randy and his whole thing was that he was always fighting the paranormal and always fighting these people these psychics and these other people who claim that they talk to spirits or do all these things and he said okay if any of you can show me proof that you can actually do this in a replicatable scientific way i will pay you one million dollars he started that in i think the 90s or the 80s and he never had to pay the bounty i had for example when i went up to wyoming a mentalist comes up to me and he says i am a mentalist i have all these superpowers these magic powers and if you tell me a number i will uh well excuse me if you think of a number i will be able to write the number down because i can read your mind i can intuit it from magic and i can show you the number i said okay great i've thought of a number and he says tell me the number and i'll show you it to you on the pad and i was like wait a minute here if we're doing this in a fair experiment you should write it the number down that i'm thinking and hand it to my secretary right over there who's just standing right there and i'll tell him the number he'll turn it around right that would be something but no i have to tell him the number by the way it was power um so you know you have to use critical thinking and you have to understand that we as human beings have cognitive biases we're not so good at determining fact from fiction and there are entire industries that erode our capacity to think well i'm victim to them as much as you guys are the point of critical thinking skills infrastructure and skepticism and the scientific method is to give you the ability to navigate those uncertain waters and arrive at a higher truth and we need that if cryptocurrencies are to be successful when bitcoin integration in daedalus rsk is so awesome uh we have no plans at the moment for that uh but i am actually thinking about uh spending some time in building a bitcoin client become a bitcoin core developer if we fail on ethereum classic i think that's the route we'll take we'll pivot that whole team over bitcoin is getting smart contracts and code is law is very prominent on bitcoin so it's the only other platform that subscribes to that belief and if we can't do that on ethereum it'd be fun to do that bitcoin itself but that's a 2021 2022 thing probably do an elixir crazy but realistic scenario question who would take your place if you die from the rona i have a group of people at io global who will run the company i have a yellow folder sitting in one of my safes with explicit instructions of what to do in the event of my untimely demise i have been so close to death so many times in life that i'm keen aware of its finiteness and fragility uh so there's a great succession plan and uh there's a road map until 2025 if i die after that i figure they'll be able to figure it all out from barron do you think there is a case to be made to remove lifetime tenure for scotus and federal justices it depends on what judges do i am a textualist why because the point of the judiciary in my view is to act as a check and balance for legislative overreach and also ensuring originalist interpretation law as it was written the minute that you admit judicial activism what you have basically done is you say that a justice now has the power without being elected without being accountable and for the rest of their life to because they think it's moral and right to change the us constitution or whatever judicial system you happen to have there's no greater example of this than plessy versus ferguson there was nothing in the constitution that said separate but equal but this doctrine was invented by racist justices at the supreme court and it took i think 70 years brownbee board of education for that to be undone judicial activism works in both directions and you can have a small group of people basically change the entire fabric of society and there's no oversight or accountability it's very problematic you know the other thing is that when you're tatulous you don't really fear conservative justices why because they just don't change anything it's inconvenient for you if you're progressive and you want rights whether they be marriage equality or whatever it might be but they don't really change things they either regress you back to the constitution as it was written or they hold the status quo they don't just go off on bizarre tangents and start changing things now they might regress things you like like certain rights and things like that that were invented by the courts but the point of the legislative process is that you have a mechanism to change your constitution and pass new laws it is not the place of the judiciary to pass new laws and invent new laws it's such a moral hazard you know it used to not be controversial at all who was on the supreme court united states and the greatest example of that the tale of two justices ruth bader ginsburg and justice scalia they were so far apart on judicial philosophy one was the conservative one was the liberal they were as far as part as you can do you want to guess what the confirmations were for them bader ginsburg was 97 to 3. scalia was 98 to 0. despite the fact they were radicals in their political philosophy and judicial philosophy it was not controversial at all for their nominations and for ultimately their approvals now because the supreme court has become an instrument of social change and it's viewed as the thing that will fix the corrupt bad problems of the constitution and evolve society in some progressive direction what we've seen is it's become hyper controversial every judicial justice is now 50 to 50 or 52 to 48 or something like that and if one side doesn't get its way it wants to impeach the justices or pack the court this was not what the court was meant to do and it's become a politicized simulacrum of its former glory and that's a goddamn shame so no i i don't think there should be a case to remove the lifetime tenure of the scotus i think if we're not going to use the scotus correctly we might as well just get rid of it and get rid of the entire judiciary and create a tricameral house instead of a bicameral house and have a congress a senate and a super senate and just go ahead and appoint some super senators to just have them make legislation and overrule the constitution and so forth there is no difference between the legislative body and the judicial body if this is the position that people are going to take it cuts both directions it causes nothing but harm and i'm sorry nine unelected people appointed by a president at a particular period of time are not the most qualified people in the world to decide what my constitutional rights are and invent new rights out of thin air there's a way to change the constitution either through a convention or through the constitutional amendment process follow that way there's a way to create federal laws we create thousands of them every single year in the federal government go do that we live in an imperfect society of course that's why we have protests that's why we have riots that's why we have a legislative process why we have elections and if they don't work change the way the elections work i just did a whole speech about that but don't go crying to a co-opted body and say because we didn't get our way through the presidency and the legislative branch we now want you to destroy the legitimacy of the court and demonize an entire branch of people who are supposed to be there to keep checks and balances and have them invent new rights it makes no sense at all to me this is where i agree with scolia absolutely do you think this divide in our society will lead to armed conflict yes i believe that if we do not change the constitution and rein in the federal government put in term limits and change the way that we elect people and the incentives of behind elections we will have a civil war within 20 years to 25 years in the united states i firmly believe that it's like 1850 you know by 1861 we had a civil war uh it didn't start in 1860. it didn't start in 1861 the civil war started much earlier because of divisions in society the abolitionist movement that case in the states rights movement that case and because those differences were irreconcilable it was a situation that eventually some straw would break camels back and it would create a cascading disruption and create an insurrection and no one is getting along right now we're all just hating each other you know people that you used to like you used to get along with you have no problem with now you just have to hate that person because that person doesn't follow your political philosophy it's a shame and the media is doing this to us and the electoral system is doing this to us you know if you peel back all the layers of donald trump the rhetoric and all this other stuff he's a pretty standard republican president yeah there's some special nuances there but at the end of the day a guy used to run the cia's running the state department mike pompeo at the end of the day goldman sachs is running the u.s treasury department at the end of the day the rank and file people in that administration are standard republican operators you would expect to see in the bush administration or in some cases the obama administration the bureaucracy is mostly unchanged they tell you we are so close to hitler and this man is destroying the entire world he's just a republican like any other when obama was in the white house they said the same thing he is the antichrist he's going to destroy the fabric of reality the whole world is going to fall apart and become one world global government because of this guy both sides use this rhetoric to try to tear each other down and delegitimize each other and so forth who was running the treasury during the obama mystery is timothy geithner head of the federal reserve the new york federal reserve really much difference there minutiae versus geithner they go to the same dinner parties you know so it's the rhetoric and the rhetoric is tearing society apart it's making us hate each other it's making us think that uh the other side is sub-human and that because people have different political beliefs that that person is evil absolutely evil and it's forcing us to embrace insane philosophies like critical race theory in this world cult and it's on the other side creating identity politics on the rights and that's why we see a rise in supremacism it's why we see a rise in militias and some people wanting to kidnap governors and kill them these are the the the ripples of a revolution of a civil war and if we continue down this road where no president is elected is legitimate uh no decision made is legitimate and everybody is doing everything possible to get whatever power they can and then use it to attack the other side uh there will be an armed conflict i firmly believe that let's unite on coinbase guys don't worry about coinbase it'll come in it's time okay it takes time for these things especially the larger they are the more conservative they are but don't worry about it stop asking about it when the time is right it will come you all remind me of the inpatient 17 year old kid that wants to get laid just be chill be good guy be calm you know just watch netflix you know be be cool to hang around be friendly it'll happen it'll happen maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but it will happen just gotta be chill most beautiful city i love switzerland i love zurich it's an incredible city i have so many friends there i love all the restaurants i love the lake mountain views there's certainly smaller cities that have just amazing natural beauty but for a practical functional city that's one of my favorite cigar bars are legal you go to toronto cigars are illegal you can go to cigar bars they have everything in zurich it's great how will data be validated on a centralized wikipedia you need some sort of community creation reputation system and incentives for truthiness the same way you validate data with an oracle system right now it's do you have a good editor you can be blatantly biased article radically out there completely inaccurate but if the editors or the editors gets a page i'm 84 and still a virgin then you need to watch the movie benjamin button i think we can take care of you do you have plans for paper wallet and deadlifts yes we are going to do the qr code paper wallet wait for that hey charles any news on etc is it secure now i did a uh one hour interview with bob summerwall today and michael capelco from coin telegraph so we uh we talked about that north korean capitals best city called pyongyang you should know the name of that mr trolleys and i hear the fish is quite good there one of these days when regime change happens i'll visit and piss on the communist monuments what is your favorite cigar arturo fluente hemingways they are very very good and very cheap charles is that a peacock mask in the background yes that is actually a performance mask that was used in circus soleil and i liked it so much i bought it thanks to pency yo yo what do you fear the most in life flying cobras the mask nope terrible at poker have you heard much about the great reset from the world economic forum i've heard some things not enough to comment about it why is cardano's supply so high so what i want you to do is go to google carlos hernandez and google decimal points just just learn about that and what i want you to do is for the rest of your life whenever you hear about ada don't think about ada okay i want you to think about kilo eta units of a thousand eight and i want you to move the decimal point a few points and and after you do that i want you to tell me how much ada is worth and i want you to just think in those terms okay can you do that for me carlos i know you can i rely on you are you still into watches yes how's the game going thank you finally we got an interesting question so i've made some decisions um i am going to go with net i'm going to write the game in f sharp and we are probably going to use unity as the um middleware engine the game engine for version one uh the.net framework has evolved so beautifully xamarin has evolved so beautifully.net core is great five million developers in it f sharp five looks incredible i'm super happy and excited about it uh and also dot net for games is great xbox can be deployed and uh there's a nice path to get it to work on playstation as well so if we're going to do cross platform that honestly looks like a great path forward the bindings look quite good too for unity uh so we'll also see what on real four is offering it's either gonna be unity or unreal 4. now in terms of the rollout of the game development studio i'm probably going to call something like frontier studios and set it up in wyoming so what i'm going to do is i'm going to set it up in the city of laramie wyoming and i'll see if i can get office space at the university of wyoming or close to the university of wyoming in terms of time horizon likely the second half of 2021 and i'm going to set up three groups there's going to be a well first of all let's talk about the philosophy of the game development studio so there are the three e's in the end and every game we build in the studio has to do that uh entertainment obviously has to be fun to play a game educational i'd like you to learn something by playing the game and experience this i'd like by playing the game you've had new experiences you've never had before things that just wow you say oh man that's amazing and the n stands for narrative i want you to be consumed into a story fall in love with the characters and so forth so we'll have working groups for each of these things people who are responsible for the experiences people are responsible for the narrative people who are responsible for the entertainment and obviously we have to talk around how do we make uh you learn something new from this it can be a moral lesson it can be a mechanical lesson like a new skill whatever the hell it is we want to do that in terms of experiences you know there's things like mendy and bci devices and all these so there's all these new dimensions from vr ar and pci that can be layered into the game but in general there's just all kinds of experiential things you can do like i can teach you about hyperbolic geometry or non-euclidean geometry the magic system can be algorithmic and constructive where you build spells and rituals and these types of things you discover new magic and spells so technology i think we have the right stack in mind and i think we have the right design philosophy and we've kind of settled on a location for that it'll take me about six months to hire the right core group of people to get things rolling and started then what we're going to do is we're going to look into a lot of experimental game technology so we're going to look into algorithmically generated music we're going to look into gpt 3 and actually i'm going to talk to ben gortzal about this i think we might be able to do something far surpassing that for generative dialogue so when you interact with npcs the npcs are actually using ai to generate dialogue and interactions with you there's been a lot of crazy good experimental stuff in console based games where you have forget the term they use for it but basically you talk to the computer and it generates responses for you and there's a lot of these like zork style text adventures that are there so i've thought a lot about that and we'll do something there and i think there's great people i know in the ai space that can give us some novel and interesting things we're also going to of course build a very beautiful npc generator that not only creates unique npcs in the game so every npc is totally unique you've never seen them before but also it constructs a beautiful narrative and backstory for the npc as well and if there's the right logic built in the game it can fit that npc logically into the game uh here's an example let's say in middle wharf the city of legends of valor uh that you're in the slums then the npc's generated there would be contextual to the slums so there would be a collection of slum-related professions dwellings religions and variants and npcs would be generated within that context including vitals so if you're in a poor area you should probably be underfed so not corpulent you should also probably have a disease like malnutrition or perhaps some boils or something you would see that in that area npcs generated in the affluent rich areas they would belong to much more structured areas and also the generative dialogue would reflect that as well so the npc generator would say okay in the rich areas you have a better educated class of people now what's nice is referential interactions so if your character is affluent based well-fed well-dressed you should actually get a proper response accordingly you'll be out of place in the slum you'll be in place in the aristocratic areas and people respond to you in kind this is relevant for legends of valor because legends of valor was actually the first game that i could identify that had randomly generated npcs random dialogue trees they were you know selected from a pre-generated set but they were still randomized and actually variable interactions so some of the npcs didn't want to talk to you some of the npcs did want to talk to you and it was somewhat contextual to the race of the player and gender of the player whether you pick male or female or elf dwarf human those were your three racial choices that you had so i have a pretty good framework for how to build games a pretty good framework for where we're going to do the game studio the tech stack for it which i think is quite extensive originally i was thinking maybe javascript would be the way to go but net has really just been a great ecosystem and why reinvent the wheel there's so much magic there with f sharp five and c sharp nine and what i see and done and what what's happened with xamarin and the cross app deployment strategy that microsoft has and there'll just be no friction with that kind of a framework um and i uh and you know the first six months will be hiring and tool building and then what we're going to do is build up departments that focus on those three e's and the narrative that the end and each and every one of them will intersect and then the other thing is that we're going to bring in some outside experts to kind of look at what we've done so we're going to write the entire story for the game and all the npcs and then we'll bring literary critics and philosophers in to actually kind of look at the overarching narrative and story yeah like the wisecrack guys for example do on youtube when they talk about things and we'll say well were there any themes or uh you know allegories or you know uh you know other things that we could you know perhaps refine thing so we'll rewrite the scripts a few times until we get quite happy in the meantime the tech guys will be building out the world engine and the npc generator and getting the graphics assets where they need to be and so forth and yeah actually for the npcs um we'll do uh motion capture so you wear the green suits and put on the dots and if you guys actually want to see how that's done in practice there's some great behind-the-scene videos for uh god of war with the guy who played tilke in stargate who does the voice for kratos and then also hellblade you know if you want to see senua and how they do that you can do it at a very low cost it used to be millions of dollars but you can actually set up a motion capture studio for about a half million dollars it's really incredible and it's top top technology you record an 8k and you feed it all the assets into the game engine and all these other things and you actually get realistic facial expressions and emotions and when they cry it cries everything renders just absolutely beautifully especially with the upcoming consoles the xbox x and uh playstation now this is relevant to cardano we will put some form of blockchain based drm system and non-fungible asset system into legends of valor when we rebuild the whole thing so your licenses for the game will be a token on cardano and your game items will be inside cardinal as well somehow some way and and tradable so if you find something very unique uh then those unique items you can potentially resell and maybe we'll connect it to trusted hardware or not you know this is another reason to go with net is that there are sgx extensions for that other things like that that we can enforce so a lot to think about but i have pondered it and a lot of things i really wanted to do like algorithmically generated music i looked into the uturpy project which came from yale uh and they did uh computer based music generation and i've also looked at a lot of ai driven music design and so what i want to do is a hybrid soundtrack where we pay a symphony and um we generate a beautiful soundtrack new world computing did an incredible job with heroes of night magic uh and i really think tro troika games did a great job with arcanum as well it would be beautiful to do a soundtrack and you can go to eastern european orchestra and rent them for a few weeks for pennies it's not very expensive to do that and you just get incredible quality in terms of the the conductor the composer to work with them uh max richter or rahman jawadi would be a good choice i even thought actually about seeing because my uh i have a friend who works with me he does the waves investment before he worked on the c fund for uh waves uh he was um trent rezner's manager um so uh it would be cool to bring uh rama jawadi who did the soundtrack for game of thrones and a lot of other things like westworld for example together with resner have them collaborate together and do the baseline soundtrack but then have ai music artists come in and do the generative music component so you basically generate music inspired from that bass stuff but it's connected to inputs inside the game world so that's an example of experiences where we bring something new to the gaming world where you don't have this repetitive soundtrack that happens over and over again instead you have a range and you kind of mix it up and randomly sample it through and it's connected to your character it's connected to your interactions and what's going on in the game plus the baseline that joetti and resner did uh if they do it and then what's nice about that means that your replayability you never hear the same soundtrack twice it's always new and it's actually always novel and interesting if you're interested in this there's actually ibm research used in ai to generate new beatles songs and if you type in like ibm beatles on youtube you can listen to it's like daddy's car or something like that is the name of the song but actually a song written by a computer that sounds like a beatles song so there's an enormous amount of progress that's been made there but it's mostly in the lab and it needs to be pulled out of the lab put in into an actual game engine i'd like to also have a variable physics engine as well where you can play around with gravity coefficient you can play around with atmospheric conditions all these other physics coefficients and so as a consequence you can manipulate the world your magic system should be the parameterization vehicle for that so spells allow you to change these things or certain environmental effects would change these types of things like for example like a fireball spell third level spell standard dungeons and dragons you know it's like the big transition when you go from level four to level five as a wizard uh you get fireball okay great well if you actually could do something like that i it would be like creating a pyroclastic cloud if you see a volcano erupt you'll see what that that means especially more powerful versions of that so the wind is as damaging as the fire can be so you know if you have a proper physics engine then a spell should also have physical implications magicka did this and also the divinity series did this from larian studios and that you could actually mix and match environmental effects so if you wet the ground and use a lightning spell then it conducts it and causes all kinds of problems okay so it would be really cool to have the physics engine give you these new experiences and so forth especially um given that you can have like real life aspects like the bricks can have weight you have telekinesis you can move them the weight is contingent to the damage and so forth and really intuitive clever players can do interesting things so and also i'm a big fan of the portal series and so it'd be really cool to put that into the magic system as well so the more rubbish characters can portal from one side to the other side jump and stab someone or something like that so a lot lot to think about across the spectrum but i have a pretty good framework for all of it we'll build it up to a certain threshold where it's you know almost ready and then likely what we'll do is do what pillars of eternity did and pathfinder did and these other games and go and do a crowd sale on kickstarter and also through other platforms as well and raise a lot of funding for uh for the game so i'll pay to get it to a certain level of prominence and once we de-risked everything and we have an approach it's just a matter of road map and then that's a great way of pre-distributing the game because you're selling software licenses for that and this will give the community a chance to participate because like pillars of attorney or other things if you you know put enough money into it you can become a character in the game or have some control of the narrative of the game or get special rewards or so forth so the short answer to your question is great to pan c have you heard of a game called noita best algorithmic magic system i've ever seen with some pretty cool emergent behavior nothing like accidentally killing yourself while building a spell well denny i have not and i'm going to write that down and i will look at it myself i haven't really done serious due diligence i bought a game a book on game magic and i read it but it didn't come up as a user can i create an nft on the game myself that'd be really interesting to explore it's hard to enforce that in a non-mmorpg with a centralized server but it may be enforceable with trusted hardware on a computer and created a centralized mmorpg in a certain respect so why this is relevant to cardano is that all the game stuff i do with my studio will open that framework and then other people can deploy video games with those same things so we can bring the video game industry into the cardano space favorite pink floyd song wish you were here hmm if you have to be alive in 2150 where on the planet would you like to be a citizen of the united states of america all 78 of them the best place i've found is crypto supreme to buy iohk swag monica wiley her question is there any place we can buy iot swag wow i could see california splitting the 28 states realistically three and frankly if northern california left uh they'd probably be a bit redder than the southern parts and i'd probably live there it's one of the prettiest places in the world and i love the climate environment it's just states a bit crazy 14 15 tax rates and the regulations they have no no okay they're going to ban the sale of gas cars by 2035. it's crazy cali is crazy joe rogan left oh guys come on give me a good question pacquiao versus mcgregor pacquiao i love mcgregor i really do he's so much fun to watch but manny's my boy did you ever have a chance to watch the documentary cryptopia cardona was only mentioned at the end now john i have not seen it were we well received or was it one of those wow cardano and i just moved on check out the alex jones on the new joe rogan episode that was released a couple hours alex jones was on joe rogan again wha it was like the last one was five hours it was crazy we had dmt aliens how is phil wadler doing charles he's still working hard on uh pluto's in fact we had four papers accepted for conference for peer review conference that are all related to his work stream phil is really just killing it he's doing great work actually this one uh let's see here it's the tcp question i missed it damn did you ever consider getting lasik eye surgery no i'm going to wait until they have cybernetic eyes and replace my eyes with cybernetic eyes so that i can see multi-spectrum i can see unfair light infrared light and other parts of spectrum and colors human beings normally can't perceive and of course they'll be loaded with augmented reality stuff and so it'll bring up all this contextual information about the world around me it'll work really well with my neural link implant which will augment my brain until such a day i think i'll just stay with the with the glasses ah this is the one andrew wilde that's a good name uh do you have any thoughts on the recent discovery of security holes in windows tcp there are many some known some unknown some are purposely not patched because microsoft waits for the national security infrastructure to utilize them for hacking of foreign systems and then they fix it three six months later so they have these windows where they they give it to the nsa to take advantage of that's been well documented you know this is just why you do formal verification and to microsoft credit they have a project called project everest which is working at redoing the entire web stack with formal methods and they've made some great progress along those ways but you really need to do that what do you think of kaspersky labs a russian antivirus company nothing special tightly coupled with putin charles what are your thoughts on psychedelics you should read michael pollan's book how to change your mind all right kids we're almost done here unless there is anything else that is just so and amazing i think i might clip it here [Music] ah well kids i think that's where i'm gonna clip it good night this was a lot of fun i'm gonna go get some dinner she