Surprise AMA 07/05/2020

00:00 to 2:04:45

and we're live hi everybody this is Charles Hoskinson broadcasting live from warm sunny Colorado it's beautiful day outside it really is I mean you look around you can see the Sun the birds the squirrels I had a very interesting long day so I always like starting these with a story if I can so I had a little bit of a health scare recently ooh that's gonna be fun tuck you know there's a lot of doctors that follow cordon Oh last year roped into doing one of those executive physicals and they went and took like tonnes of vials of blood out of me and did all these weird tests and everything and that capstone was to have a whole body cat scan done you know so I I have like tons of extra radiation now to kill me at some point my 50s when every when they did the whole body cat scan they found a small mass in my liver and they said you know it might be a benign cyst or hemangioma or something like that we should probably have it checked out I say yeah that's probably good idea so I talked to the internist who did the whole thing in Connecticut he said I don't worry about it just get him MRI whenever you have the time and I said okay okay so last month I went into my family practitioner here long mop and I mentioned it to him he said well yeah you and I should have an MRI done so he's all right final I'll go sit the magnetic coffin for 40 minutes and have an abdominal MRI done so I go and do that they do all these scans and comes back and the practitioner and the radiologists are like well it's a complex mass and it's two point seven centimeters and we're a little worried about it man yeah you know you really need to see a hepatologist you need to see that you see like a specialist just to make sure they don't have to do a biopsy and I was like oh man I'm 32 years old liver cancer I don't even drink that much god help me I yeah so this is crazy this is so insane so I go and I have to wait two weeks for an appointment with this with this doctor down in Denver who's a transplant surgeon and he runs the liver transplant program there and I go on into his office and he looks at me and he says well Charles it's nothing that was like ah Thank You cotton shows me the MRI and yet the radiologist there and apparently they showed it off to all the residents and he told me it's a benign cyst in the in the liver but you know that's that's a cliffhanger you never really want to wait for it but when you're on the other side of it you can always laugh the the old cancer thing but in perfect health life is good everything's great I was dealing with that at the same time as dealing with the conference and all these other things a lot to Shelly and so forth and there's about three dozen other things going on so it's one of those like when it rains it pours types of situations but the one value of going through an event where you start reflecting on your mortality is you think about basically the things you do in life why you're doing the things you do and it makes you a little bit more focused and a little bit more precise and your goals and your vision and your so forth so if there's any light at the end of the tunnel for these types of scares even when they come out negative it's that it can help you kind of reset a bit and you know there's nothing in the world I'd rather do than be here and work with you guys and build these types of products I love cryptocurrencies I love the whole philosophy I really do enjoy the technology and you know I think it's going to change the entire world it feels like we're in a very young industry that is incredibly ambitious not because of arrogance but ambitious because it knows it's going to change everything just like the software industry did the 1970s and the internet did in the 1990s so it's good to be with all of you I'm exactly where I want to be wouldn't be anywhere else and I hope every now and then you guys have some event that gives you a bit of life clarity and of course it works out well for you too and also digging through the old things I found this Rampal button its own campaign button and sitting here on my desk and I said well I'm gonna wear for this a May I love the man we have a lot of new presidential candidates if you guys have have you noticed first off we have Kanye West who's running yeah so if he wins Kim Kardashian will be our our first lady I don't even want to know who he would pick as vice president but I tell you what if it's not a joke when Cardno has native assets to demonstrate the power and uniqueness of native assets we will issue Kanye coin and the circulation will be one token for each vote that Kanye gets in the in the election and they can be nice collectors items and will air drop them proportionally to all the the ADA holders so we wish you very well Kanye and actually not to lean out Brock purists also announced and he's a good old friend of mine we've known each other for a long time so also to advertise our native asset standard we will do the same thing for Brock Pierce Pierce coin and and Kayne coin so it's a great way of demonstrating how multi-asset works and it's a great way of demonstrating connections to real-life events this will require an Oracle so obviously we're gonna have a build an Oracle to get it running hopefully before the election we can do that distribution and then also it'd be really cool hat prediction market in place and so maybe we can use the C fund to figure that out and then people can take predictions of which one will have higher circulation Kanye coin or Pierce coin Brock appears coin how about that think about that yeah it was a fun summit on to more serious things you know the most humbling part about all of it is I said tell my my team I said well I'll have 10,000 people if we do this right and we went on a crazy surge especially the last two weeks of marketing trying to get people come it was just a lot of time was that was involved there and just a week out we were only at 4,000 registrations and right at the end the Wrights beginning of the summit we had 9,000 people and by the end of the summit 10100 something registered so it was just crazy humbling to see how many people showed up there are a lot of great presentations it was so cool to see grigory there it was so cool to Tylar there and in the rest of the wyoming gang you know there they're just so passionate they love their homeland so much wyoming is a great state we're so glad that they've done such great work it was wonderful to see stephen wolfram tell us that he's rebuilt the universe with his own computational model it is true to form he was having technical issues with the with the conference software to tell you the truth I don't think many people were terribly impressed or happy with the conference software like for example I couldn't do a PowerPoint because they only had static slides you know then it's like okay well there's all this flare and flashiness I want to do and I said what he can't do that cigar and will screw you just do it live but outside of that I mean software didn't collapse and we had 10,000 people concurrently and it was really beautiful the event hall and all the other stuff was very happy with that so we we put it on just two months time and boy it was unbelievable to see how how quickly it came together and how quickly the agenda came together and so forth and if we had just another month we probably would have been twice the size in terms of speakers we invited a lot of people like Bob Kahn and Tim berners-lee and Brendan hick and more often than not it was just a scheduling issue where it was a bit too short notice to get them to commit to something but overall I was very happy with it and a lot of announcements I'm a tall a prism you guys got to see us working on that we got an announcement about the DC fund and Voltaire but we're native assets around gogans at you know put the launch of Shelley in kind of a context talking about media director today I heard that we have over a hundred and fifty articles that have been written so far on the back of the conference we were expecting about 120 so far 150 and we'll go through the whole list of usual candidates like venture beaten so FAR's forth and throughout July we'll see if we can get a Wall Street Journal article and a Forbes article and so forth so that was a lot of fun but what really made the summit so much fun was just experiencing it real time with you guys I really enjoyed that our community has gotten so large it's impossible to talk to all of you and see all of you but when I do bump into you it's a good experience so thank you for coming it meant the world to a global it meant the world the foundation and a Mirko it was so cool to see all the organizations be excited about announcing things and showing the world what we do and it's just a snapshot and a project that's moving very quickly and things are coming together very quickly and nothing is outside of reach for us at this point anything in the defy space within 12 months we can be a leader in that category there's a lot of use of utility projects that are right where they need to be and they're about to pop bring lots of users into the system and we're getting a lot more respect from the exchange side and from our conversations with people and Industry they're taking us seriously there was this perception that Cardno was an academic project and we're never going to deliver well we put a flag right in the ground and said Shelley has shipped so that made me really really happy and I think it's just amazing to see where we're at a lot more to do I told everybody take the weekend off but on Monday I'm gonna be a hard-ass because we got 120 days to go kick it into overdrive and I don't like to lose I like to win you know I'm incredibly competitive person and a very passionate person and this is ours to lose right now we have the momentum the winds that are back and if we really commit and push in with the community with the ecosystem we're gonna wake up at the end of the year and it's gonna be inevitable and I'm gonna be able to make that tweet ggv and then we go for number one so this is gonna be fun all right let's look at your questions [Music] and I have terrible seasonal allergies adrien-marie says I'll be sticking with University of Wyoming alright it'd be great to have a steak fool up there and actually if they can create a little pedagogy a little class on how to stake the economics of staking talk about that whole model that'd be so cool lady Rachel's in here with Velma Segal it's good to see him nickname for her zinc and good luck with the finance competition I think she's been nominated for some award that they're doing there's a lot of really interesting people in the cryptocurrency space and especially on crypto Twitter some days I went with crypto Twitter other days I lose with crypto Twitter this is certainly not a winning day you know in Asia how you get criticized is somebody will bring up something in kind of a soft way but with a slight implication behind it in a very public medium and then when you attack them on it they walk it back and play the victim but if they're genuinely concerned about things then they privately reach out to you because they don't want to even apply that you're behind it they use a public channel they've already made the decision that you're behind it responsible for whatever they're accusing you of and they're trying to create a Streisand effect where lots of people see it when they get a reaction out of you when I stand by nobody's on Twitter that's fine when it's done by people with hundreds of thousands of followers or marketing directors of companies I'm gonna kick them in the teeth and rightfully so a lot of people say there's a huge amount of ego in the tweets I have here's the rule you criticize me I don't give a [ __ ] my life is good come on any one of you trade for me now but if you criticize Cardona or my ecosystem you're attacking my family these are my people and I'm gonna kick you in the teeth you know it's not right it's not okay I am here to help and I'm here to defend and I'm here to use my very big pulpit in my power and capabilities to protect people and I believe this community deserves respect and I deserve this community is incredibly accomplished and has done a lot of great work so it doesn't come from a position of arrogance or narcissism or Do You Know Who I am it's do you know who my community is they never be diminished and they should never be attacked they're good people [Music] Charles can you talk about the two stable coins ergo and a man emerges traditional USD back that are coming from the Cardinal platform yeah so we're probably going to conduct two experiments one on a go and we'll see if we can do this as a joint venture with our NGO and Amer go and we'll put something together right now in the tail end of due diligence and the other would be a basket coin or what you do is you dissemble a collection of a pre-existing stable coins hold them in reserve on a cryptocurrency then use an Oracle to inject that basket and create a basket token on Cardinal so we're exploring both options and they're right now very early preliminary phases and so we'll be in a situation where we probably will create a partner or find a partner and then likely fund them out of the C fund to get that where it needs to go should it be successful then the basket coin is super easy to scale because it just grows like tether grows so more interest value goes up but the algo coin on ergo is extremely interesting because we can explore alternative monetary policies it doesn't actually have to track the dollar so we'll let you guys know on that but it's very early days and it's in the prototype and experimentation phase like the skunkworks phase and we have a lot of stuff that's in Skunk work phase so just a little expectation management disclaimer that does not mean it's a guaranteed product to launch but rather it's as exploring how to launch these products and what's very useful about that is the fact that it demonstrates that our token policy our spending policy in the way that native assets are issued on Cardinal is capable of doing a complex token like an algorithmic stable coin so if it can't do that then we actually have to revise the standard and that's one of the reasons why we do these prototypes is to verify what we think is true is true Charles how do you pay your staff ada or Fiat we Pam and Fiat in crypto fact our Ukrainian staffers have been paid in crypto for years and they refused to accept the local currency it's worked out very well for them when it's polymesh launching I don't know you know I was a consultant for a year I came in and gave a lot of advice they chose to go with parity substrate and there's really not much we can do to work with them so they're working with parity Tec on that that said I you know I think it's a good project there's a good team there and we wish him well I will remind everybody that we actually are doing our own security token play with card ah no I'd be good to build out that porky pig 2-tone vase actually say something because I didn't see it from him I saw from box minor and you know a few other people let me know about that at a North Pole what do you think are good ideas for CIP proposals staple ecosystem media support and how to get media funding beyond contact creator delegation smart contracts for ultimate delegation you know there's CIPS and CRC's CRC's our standards CIPS our actual infrastructure upgrades I don't really imagine that the community is going to have a lot to say on the CIP side for hard soft fork or the infrastructure improvements for the next few months what we're gonna do is now that we're on the other side of the launch of Shelley we're gonna backfill all the stuff that we didn't get around to when we were building Shelley so there's a lot of documentation that's coming and a lot of things are going to be written as C ip's retro actively once we prime that pump and get things going then you'll have a much better idea there now to your second question about media funding beyond content creator you know the fund is coming you know this DC fund will be accepting ballots for our partner submitted in July so start thinking around about what would make sense one thing I would love to see are two more podcasts and our ecosystem so I think the card ATO effect is in that it delivers general content for a general audience and Rick and Filipe occasionally Sebastien who comes on sometimes a special host I have done a great job with the Cardinal effect and they're almost about to hit their hundredth episode but we don't have a developer centric podcast like let's talk Plutus something like that and it'd be super cool to have a show where an actual engineer go through as an episode how to build a particular type of dab as a tutorial so something like let's show you how to issue a token lets you how to do crypto kitties on card on oh and start-to-finish writes the code with you talks about it and maybe it's a two three hour episode or something like that I'd love to see that long form I think it'd be super popular and after you get you know for 500 episodes you basically cover everything anybody would ever want to build in our system as a good reference point and it create a great developer community around it the other thing that I really would love to see is a governance oriented podcast basically one that talks about the expert class the Treasury system ballots that are floating around and maybe a weekly update about what's going on there and things that are on the horizon and it talked about governance in general and basically brings on domain experts in political science and domain experts in voting theory domain experts and complexity theory people who understand sociology and psychology people understand economics and just talk about voting in general like you could bring Lawrence Lessig on you can bring all kinds of people on who have been talking for years you can bring Noam Chomsky on for example on all sides of the political spectrum left and right Masoli would be a phenomenal guest to bring on into the ecosystem and basically say hey we have this hot potato which is we have to talk about governance let's talk governance and that would be you know super fun so if anybody wants to id8 how to create in who could run such a thing that would be a great ballot to see form it instantly produce a huge amount of value for the community just like let's talk just like the card uh no effect has and it's basically a Leo Laporte play what he's done with twit if you go to Twi TV twit TV you can see the twit network and he's been around for thirty plus years doing tech stuff he's interviewed everybody and basically if we could replicate what twit has done for technology in general in the tech and the tech ecosystem for Cardno that would be a huge differentiator for us you know another thing I've been considering is collaborating with both bats and hive if we can and it would be really nice to build better content distribution in particular with hive because they split from steam they're gonna have to build their own tech roadmap and it may make more sense for them to be a side chain of Cardno you know so we can certainly have that discussion but if anything it'd be nice to syndicate content through them and start sharing ideas with this community because we really need to be better at curation and frankly our media in this space sucks just sucks absolutely is god-awful terrible it's a dumpster fire on in a dumpster fire it's like somebody put a miniature dumpster that's on fire inside a larger dumpster that's on fire and then put it in a lake of fire just to prove a point about how bad the media is so it'd be super cool to see if we can do a better job curating that and building that out and it'd be great to see if Cardinal could be part of that story I'd love for that to be the case is setting for a BS in mathematics the way to go if I want to get a into cryptography I would dual major in applied math and computer science if you want to go into cryptography and take it undergraduate cryptography course and make sure you have a strong background in number theory and make sure you have a strong background programming then there are a lot of really good curricula for getting a PhD in cryptography but what I often happens is people are very interested in cryptography but then they get more interested in information security and these are slightly different fields so cryptography used by information security information security is its own animal so after you finish your bachelor's degree you know go for a master's from our ph.d program in the United States I'd say probably one of the best programs to go to is at University of Maryland it's led by John Katz John is a very very smart guy he wrote like the foundational textbook in cryptography but there's a lot of good programs all around most of the top computer science schools have very solid cryptography departments MIT does you know also CMU has great people as does Stanford as does you I you see the tier 2 tier 3 universities they tend to have very strong InfoSec people because there's a big demand for that and the NSA even helps them build and DHS helps them build assurance centers but overall it's usually lighter on the theory side there's just not that many academic cryptographers floating around and you have to be kind of a special animal to do that but you know if that's us centric in the European Union Leuven and Belgium aras and Denmark and ETH in Zurich are both are all very very strong departments and and the UK Imperial is strong as is UCL and of course you know with Edinburgh we built the group there it's the strongest cryptocurrency group in all of Europe and on the Asia side there's some great schools in China some good schools in Singapore and Hong Kong and of course Japan has some good cryptographers well it just kind of depends on where you live and also what you're interested in like for example you're really interested in quantum cryptography then you probably should swap that math side out with physics you know because you're gonna get into that and that's that's its own thing and you know if you're interested in security of hardware you should probably swap that math side out with electrical engineering for example so you can get into that because there's all these principles that are a little different and then there's a world of difference between applied and also theoretical if you're in the United States another thing you can do is if as a graduate student the NSA has a very very good internship program and they're probably the best cryptographers in the entire country there's 40,000 of them at Fort Meade and you can go and spend a summer or two working with them and turning with them and get a lot of knowledge that you wouldn't get normally as a graduate student don't go to college for computer science you know that's increasingly becoming an issue you really don't for computer science you can master everything online there's just tons of content material especially at the bachelors level but cryptography is generally considered a subtopic of computer science and mathematics the mathematician cryptographers are like the neil cole blitzes and the adi shamir x' of the world but most of them graduate with a PhD in computer science these days so if you actually want to go pursue that at the graduate level then yet you're Anita a degree and a topic like that in a strong CS background and particularly they want to see passing classes like algorithms classes computation courses complexity theory stuff just to see that you can keep up with the rigor because that's very important as you get into a crypto Charles for you and the IAF I noticed the f-15 as I said I think in f-18 I can't remember no good friend of mine is I'm an American and I have no Dominion or connection to Israel outside of the fact that I tend to go there from time to time and I did have a girlfriend who was in the IDF for a while that was a fun and unique relationship Charles is there room for more in the Ambassador Program yes actually because the DC fund is opening up not only is there room for ambassadors there's room for paid ambassadors paid on behalf the Cardinal ecosystem so the dawn of the decentralized ambassador has begun so if you guys want to become ambassadors and you weren't in the first cohort then what you can do is just make the case directly to the community and do it through reddit telegram these other things and kind of talk why you think you'd be qualified and submit a ballot as ballots start coming in it can be basically for a small skill salary and the fact that the community is willing to find you and pay you to do this is an endorsement that you actually have that little tag and that's exactly the point bass udders shouldn't work for the foundation long term they should work for the community as a whole the same for the Cardinal effect and all of this other infrastructure they're kind of dealing with an entity of necessity but now you guys the community get to decide these things NSA I think I puked in my mouth International Security Administration they're like a giant brain on wheels there's tons of brilliant people there who do incredible things in every domain and topic certainly because they're an arm of the intelligence organ of the defense industry of the United States they do some nasty things as well but if your desires to learn the state of the art and the latest and greatest of cryptography you probably will rub shoulders at some point with a three-letter agency like dia NSA or CIA if you're in the United States they're the largest consumer of this stuff and they knew about things before other people knew about things like they knew about RSA before the RSA came up with it and yeah they they knew about all kinds of cryptographic techniques so if you intern there they don't own you if you work there they kind of do so that's the difference David Schwartz for example actually worked at the NSA now he's the chief technology officer of ripple and he's taken a lot of the knowledge that he gained there and he's propagated it throughout the entire space it's a path it's not the only path and certainly people can radically disagree with that it just depends on where you're from and the UK has its own thing going on as does China as does Israel the SNR say adi shamir has done much work for the Israeli intelligence community and he has a Turing award and he invented public key cryptography Vint Cerf did not work for the NSA he worked for ARPA which is the brain plus plus so DARPA is even smarter than the NSA or the CIA they're like the most elite of the elite people the most creative of the people and they do nothing but high-risk high-return research and they go and do big big things like let's create an AI or let's create a quantum computer or let's figure out how to operate on encrypted data without ever decrypting it in polynomial time there are many paths to wisdom knowledge and experience you know you can be a painter and go to medical school and become a great doctor you can be a physician's assistant with ten years of experience and do the same you know it's what you make of it and both can be phenomenal physicians and similarly you can be a person who loves masks and other things and study mathematics on your free time and you know wake up one day and go to Princeton like solve the Goldbach conjecture and so there's all kinds of paths to that and I what I try to do is I say well what would be the most likely path to give you exposure to the broadest set of things especially if you want a job in a government setting if you have a security clearance and you can work in the defense industry or consult in that industry your salary will be two to three times higher than what you'd get in the academic world or in the normal industry world and a lot of people are very trusted because their background has to be so clean to hold the security clearance so corporations love hiring people who are in that position it's just like you know no matter how good my HR department is if you've gone through an SS bi and you had to fill out sf-86 and survive that whole process you're you're probably a lot cleaner than the normal person so I'm gonna put you in a position of higher trusted Authority but you know that's just a one way of going about it and millions of people have done that but there are many other ways to go about it just you have to decide what's best for you Charles asked did you save any surprises to announce over the next few months yep hey Gerald's really enjoyed Ben's presentation what a great visionary let's work hard to get singularity net on card ah no absolutely we'll definitely talk to Ben and I'm gonna have Jerry do that next week and we'll kind of get a sense of what he needs but it'd be great to have him you're not a big fan of OpenCog I've used it before and he's always known for thinking outside the box I think he got his PhD at 21 and he's a very creative dude that's a kid joke two randomvariables were talking in a bar they thought they were being discreet but I heard their chatter continuously ah I gotta remember that one I've never heard that if I ever taught a probability class I'd definitely tell people Charles thoughts on the kovat outbreak in states such as Texas Florida California those of you who follow me would know that I made a video on periscope probably a month and a half ago when the protests started breaking out where I said hey these public health officials they have put themselves in an impossible situation where if coronavirus is as bad as they say it is then all these protests are going to result in a tremendous amount of death and infection and just bad outcomes for people if it isn't as bad then they expose that the thoughts statements and credibility of the officials is wrong and they put themselves in a really bad situation because they said that the protests were fine that you know that they shouldn't cancel these protests because apparently as the black lives matter movement is so important that it is worth exposing society to millions of new infections and what's been extraordinary to watch over the last six weeks has been how the media in our country has tiptoed around the fact that they're seeing huge spikes and pronoun virus cases and people under the age of 30 and they're trying to pretend it's like Memorial Day or you know the fact that some bars reopened or something and then you see a strong correlation between corona infections and people who attended protests and rightfully so if you're spending hours today's densely packed sometimes sleeping outside next to people without PPE on or any PP that's worth a damn sharing water bottles eating off the same plates you're probably gonna get infected with something and the problem isn't the children getting it because they're mostly resilient and it's not going to kill them it's problems when they go home and a lot of these protesters live with their parents their grandparents it'll infect them and so you'll see an initial wave of spike with the under-thirty crowd and then a huge spike in people or the age of 50 the parents who got infected from the kids and those are the ones who sat the ICUs and so forth so predictably we are now in the second wave because of that and according to our public health officials that's fine and so my opinion is they have blood on their hands I think it was malpractice at the highest level their licenses should be suspended and this is just not how a civil society should operate and when you say trust the science trust the scientists the burden is on the scientists to behave with integrity and objectivity regardless of their personal political beliefs or feelings yes we need to change society yes there are many problems and believe it or not social injustice and racism somehow predates coronavirus and we as a society have every capacity to deal with it as soon as this crisis abates a bit but you cannot at the same time say that people have to lose their jobs their livelihood that people have to be pushed to the brink of suicide and depression marriages collapse and everybody has to stay at home ticket people who are sitting by themselves at night on a beach for breaking quarantine and then say it's okay for millions of young people to take to the streets burn things down not wear masks or masks that are worth anything and that's not a problem for society you lose credibility and now we are in the post credibility era we've entered the age of chair nope well not good not bad you know three Rhoda Jen you know this is where we're at now and no one will ever believe these health officials again they've lost credibility everywhere I go every restaurant I go every person I talk to my barber whatever might be they say the same thing it's anecdotal I'm aware but I got to tell you if everybody's saying the same thing it feels like they've lost credibility and because they have well let society sort that one out so it's really unfortunate really sad you know we have over 140 vaccine candidates that are currently going through the pipeline and several are already at late stages and if we're lucky by q4 of this year we could actually see one that's quite effective fastest in the history of humanity that we've ever developed a vaccine and we'll get ahead of it so the whole point of flat the curve and letting this out outside of avoiding the medical system being overwhelmed means that we could actually prevent the second wave if that happens but now we've lost that because of these insane protests so it is what it is my personal feeling is that if you are under a certain age you don't have comorbidities like cardiovascular problems lung issues diabetes these things you're probably gonna be okay when you get it then all the data I've seen suggests that the CFR is aggregate about 0.33% I don't think there's any debate amongst physicians and public health physicians who are being intellectually honest that this disease really is not a problem for large groups of the population but of the groups of people that it is a problem for it kills a lot of them the CFR could be as high as 5% to 10% it's devastating for certain categories of people so what do you do well you do the same thing you do when you've destroyed a person's immune system when you're treating them for cancer or their end-stage HIV or something their immune system is destroyed you isolate those at-risk populations and you just tell them take a break and you give them a big payoff and say well pay it not to work will pay it adjust wall yourself up until the vaccine is available be safe you tell them to do that a lot less devastating to the economy than telling every single human being they have to stay at home except for the people that want to burn churches down and burn society to the ground but that's the age we live in an age of doublespeak and intellectual dishonesty and Michael lesser is indeed very credible now there is a really nice light at the end of this tunnel there are huge advancements in virology huge advancements in vaccine science huge advancements in immunology huge advancements in the treatment of a RDS mostly because people are basically innovating while standing on a burning platform and necessity is the mother of all invention just the other day I saw an Israeli company has developed a breathalyzer for coronavirus which has about a 90% accuracy it's a pretty amazing device and it can be reused and so suddenly and it's also detected quite early in the disease cycle so innovations like that are here to stay and they'll continue to rapidly advance so on the back end of this pandemic we're gonna have significantly better technology techniques drugs to treat the common flu all the way up to advanced respiratory distress I and that's just great for us all so we paid a huge price for all of this I the people who have lost credibility are not going to get it back anytime soon if ever and society is very traumatized but you know be an optimist there's at least some good things that are gonna come out of this hopefully by the way coronavirus is probably here to stay it's mutated a lot there's a lot of strains of it even if a vaccine works one will probably slip through and we will have a corona season year after year after year that's the dirty truth we have a flu season there's going to be a corona season it's gonna be here for the rest of time why no vaccine for the original SARS because it never became a problem and so there wasn't enough money or focus the same for the Ebola vaccine a Lassa fever vaccine and many other things are very scary up front because they kind of burned out the desire to build them goes down SAS and Camille hello from Ontario always good to hear from you it's always good to be in Ontario what part of Ontario yen good friend of mine I lives in Toronto and frequently goes to London and Muskoka I hear it's quite beautiful in those areas how's your grandpa doing he's doing very well he has damage to his lungs from asbestos so he's on oxygen and he's 90 years old but he's a tough guy he fund the Korean War he was alignment he's my only remaining living grandparent I lost three grandparents last year so I try to spend as much time as I can with my grandfather and enjoy him as much as I can mark I grew up in Muskoka is heaven I hear that yep Bracebridge for the one okay what do we got here what are your thoughts on the former CFTC Chairman Christian Kiley Lowell is a good guy Wow we have a lot of Muskoka people here what Ryan Sweeney he looks old Charles Hoskinson yeah I hope I I lived to 90 although with this lifestyle I think I'll die a lot sooner Diego read my question what was your question do you know let me see here is the Ethiopia events creating problems for the MOA yeah it is I can't even get contact with my Ethiopia crew right now everything is is blacked out it's pretty sad hopefully everybody's okay you know we'll eventually be able to reconnect cat there's a lot of Muskoka people Jax Lake Muskoka as ex-leader yeah anybody not in Muskoka Giancarlo was on the Senate Banking testimony ever thought about going on one of those yeah eventually I will I'll have to wear a suit and do the whole thing and go senator you know I'll watch Mark Zuckerberg for inspiration I think that's how he drinks water that's seriously it's like he has PR people who are like you're acting too much like a human stop watch seven hours of Star Trek The Next Generation all the data episodes that's what you need to do come on mark come on flavortown are you gonna take a break 1,000 miles per hour for so long tough even at 32 not if your plan is to die at 35 Ukraine Thailand Connecticut thank God thank God okay Melbourne there we go I am ight Bobcaygeon was beautiful today you guys ever fans of The Tragically Hip remember that band Gordie was a great musician - Amy died Nashville okay okay you ever been out to Mount Juliet where's your card on Oh tattoo it's on my left butt cheek Virginia just outside of DC I used to live in Fairfax if you know that area did you hear Biden referred himself as his own husband at this point Biden's gonna start talking about the time he was a senator the guy has dementia guys it's elder abuse running up Nickelback no no no no no no no no Nickelback that's just not fair Oh God now Lincoln Nebraska some people from Iowa care interested work in the Wolfram project yeah I'll ask Phil Conte if he is he's a physicist we have a few physicists in the company but I'd much rather work with Wolfram itself we got to negotiate a deal of that guy I thought we were I think we are somebody's working on it but we'll make sure we get that done we need them for Oracle data they're a good company did you watch the epstein dog on Netflix oh yeah I forgot max weaned and Maxine Maxwell that's right she didn't kill herself just getting that out there because that'll happen long live ac/dc only if you're on the highway to hell but you know I've been thunderstruck by all their performances where can i buy card on on merchandise good friend of mine runs crypto supreme best place to buy it how was the Taichi going you know I keep trying to get a Tai Chi person come my office and first coronavirus hit then we had somebody then he pulled out for to do a summer camp but we'll get somebody we'll get somebody Michael my Secretary's working on it he's he's very good at the stuff he's just overloaded heathers there was too much to do with the summit he believed him teachings of Christ no I'm a devout follower of Odin he may have your one God but I need many gods there's a lot of [ __ ] going on do you remember the old wolf3d games huh that's an oldie Charles where are some steps or cautions to identify scammers okay very simple okay a scammers job is to convince you of something so that you will give that person money or something of value okay so first anytime anyone asks you for something of value or money skepticism 2:11 there's never a gence II there's always going to be another boat you're never going to miss the boat okay so and you will always have the opportunity to inform yourself and fill in that information asymmetry how scammers operate is they create ambiguity uncertainty and you have to do it now they knock you out of your comfort zone and then they put you in a position where it's take the decision and take it or leave it in my experience I've never had a case where because I missed some opportunity another one didn't come okay there's never a case in life where you only have one shot at something if you really truly want to do something you really truly want to build something you'll have multiple opportunities for it and the more you know the better and if somebody's trying to sell you something if the thing they're trying to sell you is truly good for you they want to educate you and give you as much information as possible they get excited when they get somebody who's like yeah tell me more and you actually walk them through something and show them the value of what you're doing a scammer wants you to be in the dark and when you ask them questions they deflect them or they use innuendo or so forth if you go to the old bit connect salespeople or the one coin salespeople and there's probably still some of these floating around YouTube and listen to their arguments and how they sell to people and see that seminar stuff that is a great example of what a scammer does it's and if it's too good to be true if they're promising you something like a 10x or 100x or a thousand X just like trading systems I see all the time genius billionaire guy created a trading system and for only 999 dollars he'll sell you his trading system and you're guaranteed to get a 15% return per year why is he not running a hedge fund then with 50 billion dollar assets under management competing with Renaissance technology he does that he's James Simon's he has 20 billion dollars why the [ __ ] is he selling it to you for nine hundred ninety five dollars he's no but he wants to make the poor people rich okay well why is he not giving it to you for free then if he's so wealthy that he has a luxury to do that common sense come sense okay and anytime person makes it claim the claim should be verifiable like look at Cardinal we said provably secure you say oh I'm super skeptical Charles an evil guy it's like okay all right google it so go enter gkl 15 Bitcoin in Google the first result a result is one of our papers that Bitcoin backbone protocol look at how many citations that paper has and that paper appeared in your crypt which is one of the most prestigious conferences look at the people who cited that paper every single major academic group that does cryptocurrency research has cited that paper as something that they're building on top of war they were inspired from that's just one of 60 plus results that we have don't trust us about the code go to card onto updates and look at how many commits we have go to our github over 250 repos I think a lot of them are actively maintained with lots of stuff in it so you can see the code and you can see contributors and you can see who those contributors are anything legitimate whether it be aetherium or Bitcoin or ripple should have that or something like that a slime trail that you can do diligence yourself and see and then you can say okay there's there's something here and you see year after year after year after year of continuity there and consistency there and realizing the vision scammers will never have that ever it just won't exist in fact they try to replicate it by impersonating people or replicated by actually lying to people and saying they aren't so I said great show me the proof ask for these things and you can see it it's trust but verify that's what Reagan used to say so if it's too good to be true if they try to put an artificial time pressure if they're taking advantage of your ignorance or lack of knowledge in the space and refuse right you Kitimat independent ways of educating yourself you can't do due diligence on the claims or you don't understand how to do diligence on the claims that's disease are all good indicators that you're being scammed and that somebody's trying to scam you or perhaps they've been scammed themselves and they're pushing that through so just walk you never regret the times that you walked that turned out to be big winners because you'll always have another one and if you're a true investor if you're a true entrepreneur you'll always have another chance there was a guy at one point who owned 5% of Apple he was the decider between Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak had he held on to that 5% would be worth I think 20 billion dollars or something like that today but they asked him you have any regrets he's yeah at it all wasn't for me yeah he's a rich guy he lives in Vegas life is good for him Charles were you able to decompile legends of Valar we got what we needed and now we've gotten into the design phase of the game in fact I was just listening to max Richter and Ramin Djawadi because we're trying to figure out what the soundtrack is gonna look like and I've been doing a lot of work actually in some out there [ __ ] so I just saw a non-euclidean game world engine I'll post a tweet of the video of it and also some alternative physics systems where kind of physics have been changed completely so you can have time go slower and faster in certain places different gravity constants all kinds of stuff so that III would love to play with those mechanics and have non Euclidean geometry and a hyperbolic geometry and in my game somehow someway there'd be a lot of fun but but right on the ideation phase should death be permanent should injuries be permanent should be very difficult to heal your character like how draconian do we want to be on the player character and that'll take some time can you talk about the proof-of-work algorithm then I would she's working on yeah it's called Minotaur and we're also trying to couple it with a useful proof of work function so not quite ready to release that but we will release the paper Charles you like Max Keiser yeah Max and Stacy are good friends and I love them a lot they are like a pendulum they're on some days he launches max coins some days bitcoin is the best thing ever but you know he's always a cool guy and he's always been very nice to me and Stacy's been very nice to me and I think that overall they're a lot of fun to listen to how's your magic education going I've gone back to light myths that's how far back I'm gone Charles any fear of hyperinflation yeah thoughts on hex know nothing about it by the way Max Richter November Google that amazing song you're very cool to pair that with an in-game cinematic something like that mr. launch x4 Kogan yep have you played Planescape torment yes I have the Planescape RPG what a few games you could ever win without ever fighting and Arcanum plants game is a masterpiece absolutely narrative masterpiece it's very difficult to reach that far that was just it was just one of those games that was just out there but at the same time Planescape was also showing you is just incredible incredible world that was so creative you know this idea of a city being an aggregation of all these different planes of existence and then it gave you this dimension of freedom where you could do gods and robots and all this other stuff it was just so so creative and that's what games should be they should really utilize the storytelling medium that is unique to them hello from Vegas whereabouts in Vegas please by Diablo from Blizzard and fix that yeah bill Roper tried to do that with flagship studios it didn't work out so well for him and he'll get London III like Bill he's a good guy it's just not a very good businessman for those of you don't know bill red led Blizzard north and he was one of the original designers of Diablo he was actually the voice of Diablo in the original game Diablo how about that for game history saw a pink floyd do the wall in 1981 best concert ever ah man you know I paid CCR and Steve Miller come to my conference last year and I got to like basically sit right next to them meet him backstage that was the best concert ever especially CCR Steve is gonna old but any kind of dialed it in but I still like Steve Miller and he's only the first time his career that he played with CCR so it was so cool to make that happen but clear wider Creedence revisited they're just good man they're just good I was great they played fortunate son all that stuff and it was just Rocking i Swindell CT guitar guitar guy yeah i Swindell was also part of the Infinity engine series i Swindell one two and baldur's gate one two and thrown a ball and Planescape for all the Infinity engine games beautiful engine is written in C and then Lua was the scripting language to actually make everything happen Charles do you think there is a strong correlation between stock market crypto market that brings up another point there should be a 1/4 show outside of the card ah no effect let's talk Plutus and let's talk governance there should be a let's talk trading people like trading I just don't talk about it it's not my cup of tea I have a lot of hedge fund friends they're so good at that great it's not what I do but of the people who do it I think there is a credible way to talk about it and it'd be so cool to hire an actual quant a professional trader to actually sit down in a very rigorous and disciplined way discuss the markets what's real volume versus fake volume what are trading strategies how to put a caller how to trade options these types of things that'd be another really cool show to start in our ecosystem I can even recommend some people to get involved in that and these are examples of things that you guys can do with the DC Fund and that can become something that gets a lot of traction not just with Cardno but in general and then it would give us a nice network effect Charles is more when the best game ever more win with mods very well could be but that's the truth of Bethesda they make a template and it's almost there but it's like a wax museum and then you have to add all this stuff to get it done Charles can you have a personal character flaw that you are working on oh sure that's a good question I need to learn I need to listen more active listening is the single most valuable skill you can have for maintaining good relationships with people the smarter and more arrogant and more charismatic and articulate you happen to be the more you start falling in love with your own voice and your own ideas and you tend to if you're not careful have too much of that and you drowned out meaningfully or inadvertently other people so it's a super super important skill to slow down shut up and listen and it's something that I spend a lot of time on these days gotten better but I got a long road to go and that's a question we should all ask ourselves best game ever EverQuest yeah I loved every quest that was great Charles I didn't see Nathan Kaiser present at the East Summit this past week is he's still doing okay well Nathan Kaiser I think Nathan Kaiser is still doing okay Nathan's chairman at Cardinal foundation and one of the smartest lawyers and one of the actually best investors entrepreneurs in our space he's brilliant guy and he's the right mix of risk-taking behavior blended with skill blended with legal knowledge blended with just living in many different cultures and so he was the perfect guy to come in and kind of write the ship with the foundation during the Parsons administration they basically doused everything in gasoline and set it on fire and then they came in it was like like Berlin after World War two like everything is just wrecked so uh so Kaiser had to basically fix all that and that was a thankless job meeting after meeting fin mothers there's that getting proper auditor in place and I was just so much stuff had to be done and it was one of the things that no one's gonna pat you on the back for it they're just gonna criticize you if you don't do it so it was a thankless job as well I really admire Nathan and Domino Bjerke and men meat for stepping into that void and get so that the foundation can actually now execute and be the entity that it was originally intended to be for the Cardinal ecosystem that lists jobs are often the most important and underappreciated and but I will always remember them caryl de ma CCD alumni in student government president while I was there would you reminisce for a moment of your time teaching I never actually taught at her area I attended Metro State night moved on to see Boulder after I finished there and actually I originally started Front Range so I was a long time ago at 16 a community college student when I graduated from Front Range I transferred to Metro and then after Metro I went to see Boulder but and back then was Metropolitan State College when the name of the University that shows you how low on the totem pole we were but my fondest memories are definitely there Saint cash attends and the Tivoli and all those other places and it certainly grown a lot in fact the science building that we had what I was there was like from the 70s and it was all run down and they upgraded and built a proper science building and they had an overflow of classes in north classroom and so forth but a our area is is a great place great University - yeah the whole set up that they have with the ccd and metro and UCD and actually UCD has a pretty good applied math ph.d program a lot you can do there and it's cheap you know with Pell grants instead of loans you if you're poor can go there for basically for free and have a reasonable debt load when you graduate the only problem is no one ever finishes at Metro they have a terrible rate of graduation and and some they've been working on for a long time that's why they built that big Student Success building but you see that with open enrollment universities it's kind of like the the model for Metro was City College of New York which is a very famous 100 plus year old University that's in New York City and they were kind of like the place that the poor people went to if they couldn't afford to go to Kuni or NYU or these other things and a lot of these see CNU students are are now like very famous and very rich but see CNU keeps that reputation and Harvard does as well many people don't know this but Harvard has an open enrollment College called Harvard extension and when you graduate from Harvard extension you actually have a proper Harvard degree it eats away at the Harvard general and they when you get a degree from Harvard you listed as an a/b have a curious Bacchus there's something it's Latin for that but when you graduate from the extension it's a LP so that's the only difference you cite them the same you'd say this degree Harvard University alb okay so that's extension a B is the normal Harvard and they were very very careful to make sure but you get a Harvard student ID you know you're in the crimson you go to a Harvard graduation when you finish and actually a lot of Harvard Extension people have gone on to do great things and extensions been around for nearly a century down little things you didn't know you can go to Harvard universities are going to go through some very hard times in the next few years they've become diploma factories and credential stores and I don't particularly care about learning I and things are going to change a lot because of coronavirus everybody's going to school in online and they're saying well why not Coursera or EDX well why do I need to use this when it's a hundred times cheaper to do that and I'm getting the same thing are you Bill burr fan yes I like Bill burr says it like he is he's like a modern-day what's his name his name will come to me in a moment seven things she can't say on TV George Carlson when I was comin George Carlin excuse me and it's modern-day George Carlin George Carlin yeah there you go universities have done great harm yeah I was actually had a Italian restaurant the waitress yeah she looked young in size - how old her she says 20 and I said that's cool I say you going to school she's like yeah yeah I'm a philosophy major I say oh that's so cool I love philosophy it's like my favorite thing in the whole world uh you know have you ever heard of Bertrand Russell or Immanuel Kant oh no I've never heard of them I never took anything that's like okay well how far you in the program I'm a junior so you don't know create analytic philosophy and you're a junior in philosophy it's like yeah I'm going to Whittier you know Nixon went there but nobody talks about that anymore I say okay well what are you studying them she's a ecofeminism and a minor in Gender Studies at this like $30,000 a year college online it's like okay good luck with that I'm sure you're gonna have a very rewarding career the reason why I bring up ecofeminism and I bring up the you know analytic philosophy is that if you actually want to be a philosopher there is a way of doing it and it's rigorous you know you look at Dan Dennett or any of these other people who do philosophy professionally and rigorously they're they really go at you like if you write papers in the graduate level PhD level for philosophy these people just viciously viciously analyze arguments and look at them an analytic philosophy is definitely a domain to do that as as logical positivism and all you know all these other things in philosophy but then you have these subfields like ecofeminism and you're like there's no standards there and what deeply bothers me about them is that the peer review process is just broken in those domains there were there was a professor and he was actually on Jill Rogan he and his friend his friends a mathematician and he was a professor in Oregon basically submitted a bunch of fake papers to these journals that do gender studies and feminist studies and so forth and they just got crazier and crazier to see how far they could basically push the envelope and it got to the point where they took mine calm which is Hitler's book and they replaced the Jews with white men verbatim and it almost got accepted for peer review and it was got accepted they were actually in the referee process and there was apparently nothing wrong there like the most racist texts of the 20th century which led to the genocide of millions of people is the worth consideration in these circles so I'd highly encourage you guys to look that up on the the Joe Rogan and listen to this story it's both hilarious and just disturbing at the same time you know it's okay to disagree and it's okay to come up with all kinds of crazy theories this is the point of the academic world but you have to have structure in the way that you present your ideas repeatability and you have to follow some semblance of the scientific mechanism and there is something of objective truth when you eliminate the concept of objective truth and you go to subjectivity then everything just gets crazy you can redefine anything you want and then basically what happens is that a certain group of people get very powerful and they use the fact that they can now control thought and what's right and what's wrong to redefine everything for their particular way and everything else is hate speech we're seeing that right now it's um it's very bad and it's a very disturbing and that's all I'll say about that you learned about Bertrand Russell in high school you know actually one of the reasons that Bertrand Russell was it was from one of my favorite philosophers not only can you read his stuff and he lived a long long time he made it to YouTube there's actually interviews of Bertrand Russell shortly before he died I believe in 1970 where he can listen to them and Russell knew everybody he knew Dyne Stein he knew girdle he did massive amounts of great mathematical research in the early 1900's and then he moved his way into ethics and and other things and just a brilliant guy absolutely bright hate his politics he was a bit of a communist but a great guy nonetheless a degree in feminist underwater basket-weaving check your priveledge CT check your priveledge have you ever owned a parrot no but I did on a toucan I was at oco-2 Ken had a damaged left wing there's a story about that involved bellies oh you Jeremy you know that one the best study was the rape culture amongst dogs in the park yes yes that was a great paper and that was accepted for peer review and you would figure the response would be that there would be a serious evaluation of the standards and the conduct of the journals instead they went after the people who submitted these things silence the messenger that certainly solves your problem Charles will Michael Parsons be shoveling [ __ ] in legends of valor well Michael Parsons the person will not be but I could have a character named Michael to some stuff never piss off a game designer have the left when he has always damaged nice nice I didn't even realize that ah that's beautiful two cans are the best pets though Charles did you ever date Grimes no I did not my girlfriends were always a bit more out there work dangerous love life is an interesting topic for another show Charles why did you break up with Vitalik and the sex just wasn't doing it anymore where did you buy that ring in your left hands over a hundred years old - unikz ring from the Imperial China have you ever been in a fist fight yes I have a Karen for a wife hello I'd like to report yeah that's not gonna happen Charles why do you think the coinbase is not mentioned their partnership well it's a custody arrangement there should be a press release floating and I think probably it'll come out on Monday if it hasn't already come out July 4th is a terrible time for news but it's a good relationship we like working with them and Rosetta is actually a great listing framework and we've been definitely having our fun working our way through that Charles crazy ex-girlfriend story yeah one time I was stalked by somebody and who well I was with someone else followed me to a bar and well it was actually a poetry thing and hid underneath a car which had a suitcase on the top of it that said emotional baggage didn't realize that it was just a moment it was a great moment [Laughter] I'm sorry to hear that Kevin it's that when a marriage ends especially if you have kids or a lot of history and a lot to assets and things like that it's just it's miserable and the entire divorce system we have turns people against each other it's not incentivized for speedy nice resolution we're worried about solar flares no warrior mage healer hybrid healer everybody likes healers like the people that no one complains about Yass is dominated by chinese block producers do you think that cardano's staking would add up the same fate No and I'll even do a video why not gonna do a whiteboard probably tonight talked about a few things Dyson Sphere thoughts there's actually a really good video like from kesaji or whatever I can never pronounce these damn guys but I tell you what I'll actually give it to you I don't understand why they named their video service like this but I'll and if you ever want to know about Dyson spheres this is the video to watch AHA see here I guess I have to click on it and set it over so Dyson Sphere basically is the idea where you go ahead and build a sphere or some sort of structure around a star and then you use that structure to generate electricity and stars generate so much raw energy that if you were to do that you could basically power anything you wanted you can also actually build an engine around a star let me let me show you the video on that as well super super cool it's called a stellar engine and you can actually move an entire galaxy entire solar system as a spaceship so you never have to leave earth you could actually just convert the Sun into an engine and then take the entire solar system wherever you want to go at near light speed how about that pretty cool stuff Charles do you ever develop a competitor to card Otto no but I do believe in complementarity so Cardno covers a certain area and there are other areas that card out does not cover like IOT for example doesn't currently cover social media it doesn't really see much the privacy space and it would make sense to build a portfolio of complementarity we are clearly doing different things and then get interoperability between these different ecosystems but you know what if i ever did that i take care of card out on community because they've been so good to me yeah the al-kubra a warp drive where you kind of been space so you can go faster than the speed of light even though your local reference frame is slower that's really cool - what do you think of the Ethier project the International thermonuclear reactor you know I had once built a Farnsworth fuser and I'm actually going to build it again much bigger fan of NIF I think it's a more practical faster path to the fusion and there's a lot of room there but II tier has had some great results especially with the recent stellarator that they constructed Professor Farnsworth Philo Farnsworth that's correct thoughts on the ball darts gate three game it looks [ __ ] awesome and the divinity guys are the ones who should make that I don't get to make it they should make it they'll do an amazing job thoughts on Tasos having trouble seeing them they're so far back they used to be big where where do they know you guys heat a house anywhere huh same videos they're just just out there don't worry at least eos will be able to raise another four billion dollars so they can come up with something to compete with us for Tasos you know they gave a [ __ ] for a long time how great they are and how far we are behind them the end of the year they got they've blown everything I'm sorry you know it's one thing to say let's collaborate work together let's all be is nothing just to be dicks to people and go to Twitter and just piss on people every [ __ ] day they say oh well we did that because you know you you said negative things about Arthur and and Kathleen and the whole Tasos affair yeah you guys hired a really bad guy young givers and you set up this whole [ __ ] up structure and you gave sweetheart deals to people and so forth on it I own the mistakes I make own the mistakes you make and it created a moral hazard for our industry and it caused problems for us because every single Swiss foundation got out her enormous scrutiny from fin ma all the Swiss banks shut down almost every foundation had trouble maintaining their bank accounts or keeping their bank accounts or opening bank accounts for two years which someone requests because of that incident and all the negatives negativity of bad press and lawsuits that came that way it was harmful for our ecosystem it wasn't just kicking people it was saying clean up your [ __ ] there's no need for this to be public goes ham as I need to when people do these things what do you think about this malaria you mean Tolkien's book where he just like went crazy world-building added a whole bunch of stuff I've never been a big fan of that world there's just too much stuff too many strange terms too much work did you play the command & Conquer theories yes yes I did Red Alert was great actually I really loved the original command & Conquer Tiberium Tiberian Sun was really good too hmm David Gilmore Roger Waters David Gilmour by far I will never forgive watch Roger Waters for his recent opera he did I saw in Toronto it was horrible I left at intermission never to see it again I'm sorry Roger you're a very creative guy love of God never inflict that opera on anybody civilization is great series yes if five was my favorite and by the way when I criticize a project I criticize an event an action I criticize a specific thing that was done I don't mean to say everybody who's part of that project and everything that's in that project is bad or these people are somehow deceptive or wrong we all make mistakes and people certainly criticize me for my mistakes and I'm big enough to admit that you should never define an ecosystem or a person at their worst moments or their worst mistakes and we should live in a society where we feel free to criticize each other with the understanding that we can still have a good relationship at times and if somebody from Tasos came to me today so let's collaborate on something I'd see no reason to say no to that actually I think they have some great people there and they do good work it just really sucks when certain community members say we're scammers evil people or anytime we have anything they go and tweet about it just to kick us because of something that happened years ago criticism that was levied years ago it's unnecessary it hurts them as much as it hurts us in fact far more so them and it diminishes a good project and not everybody in Tasos does it but there are certainly some people who are very loud and very mean and if you don't believe me you look at any reddit thread on the Tasos reddit that mentions my name or Cardno and see what the comments saying john mcafee versus alex jones john is not insane alex is so John Roger Avary jerker no Roger is not a jerk Roger is a very good guy he's just a very principled guy and he believes very strongly in its things and I often say that Roger didn't change the space did Roger ver has been consistent since he started and he's put his money his reputation his work where his mouth is the problem is that the space grew up and became less of the space that he's accustomed to and you have to operate differently Erik Voorhees and Roger were very much the same when the space started and Roger matured and grew and evolved and Erik state the exact same that's why Erik is having some trouble like see me Roger is having some trouble now I whereas Erik is doing shape-shift and all this other stuff and no one seems to complain too much that said I think bitcoin cash does have a right to exist and it's a good example of a governance failure in our ecosystem that we need to fix but I do like Roger in every single time I've ever talked to Roger he's never been a dick to me and he's always made time to talk to me you know even when I was a nobody in the space so that says that's good on him and I will remind people that Roger is the guy in the very early days who would go and buy a coffee at a coffee shop and he wouldn't leave until they accepted payment in Bitcoin go get his haircut wouldn't leave until they accepted payment Bitcoin okay he was very hardcore about merchants adoption and still is Charles is the kolaks conjecture solvable if you can solve that you can solve the Goldbach conjecture and a whole list of other additive number theory injections because they all have to do with like how does factorization change energy factorization change under addition you know if you know some particular decomposition of an integer into its prime factors when you add k to it can you predict if you know certain things about K what that is going to transform to if you understand that then collapse is totally resolvable because you could have some certainty about basically whether you'll converge over an arbitrary amount of steps a finite amount of steps to a power of two or not and if you can find a number where that's not the case well then it's a counterexample but if you can show that for all numbers that convergence will happen because of some property of how addition changes factorization then that would be a true statement and Goldbach would also be resolvable and a lot of other things but we don't really actually understand much about that it's a very very very hard topic of mathematics and the problem is the tools that we have just aren't good enough and you kind of look way way way way up and you can't get specific enough and there's lots of fields medals to be earned looking into these things hmm Peter shift is Satoshi ha that would be the greatest twist of all Titus of Kaiser Association right there man the Kevin Spacey how good are you in mathematics terrible worst mathematician alive he'd put ten mathematicians in the room I'm I'm ten to ten out of ten Charles do you think Adam back is Satoshi yeah he probably is it's old news get out here would you retire and live in Japan no I'm already living where I want to live when I retire I live here it's a farm I love my farm no no reason to go anywhere else David is a very smart man I like him he's got a calm cool brilliance about him that is not very common Charles in Major League Baseball you know a friend of mine tried to buy the Mets and his son actually works for me and he read it all this whole snafu about the whole thing and I was so excited about it I was like oh my god he's gonna buy the Mets this is great I could go to the owners box and watch baseball but I mean Yankees fan over the mats so that would be really awkward I'd show up without a Yankees jersey sit there give a [ __ ] it'd be great I'm not a big baseball fan to be honest with you I like hockey and soccer a lot more used to be a huge football fan but I'm just done with football it's too political I watched to not do that and not think about that now the game has become that and it's just sad truly sad even the Broncos yeah after paying Manning retired I was like okay what's left it's like what's the point of the NFL anymore you know everything is political now everything everything's race this this this I stopped it the whole reason we watch is that we don't have to think about the evils of life we can just relax and have something simple to think about and have an opinion about and it brought people together you know you go to a bar you talk you about the football game it has no bearing where that person comes from their life story their race their gender if they're there at the bar with you watching the game with you you talk to him about the game and they have an opinion you have an opinion you have something you bring they bring some you just talk about it brings people together and then somehow the culture were infested football and now we have to hate each other there too it's just sad it really is sad we're losing any out to this entire current environment and I just gave up and I haven't really thought about football since I don't even know who the coach is for the Denver Broncos I mean I used to know everything about them you know I had a strong opinion when josh mcdaniels came he came and I said no no no it needs to be Pete Carroll come on I love USC I knew all this died watch the draft now saying no he's drafted don't even know who the quarterback is don't know who that Coach is don't care I haven't watched a full game of football since the Superbowl when Tom Brady was there that's it like Brady said why not but couldn't care less about the rest of it what's your favorite color black you ever watched Golden Girls yeah I did that's it good that was a good show he's watches my grandma john elway yeah he's a decent guy yes horses too no one are you proposing the Caitlyn long she's already married guys Caitlyn is a brilliant woman though and she's probably one of the best business people we have in our industry and political operators we have in our industry one of these days I'm just gonna force her to run for Senate we need somebody like her and in the Senate Wyoming Charles I bet you liked MacGyver the kid yes I did and I even liked Richard Dean Anderson and Stargate sg-1 you know you watched it you know you complained about everybody speaking English except for the ghoul why do you think a lot of prominent people in the space believe so much in Bitcoin consider everything else [ __ ] coin because they own Bitcoin and they don't own the other coins it's that simple people talk the book they own there is no absolutely no reason at all for people to be anti altcoin in this day and age if they are they are either misguided or actively manipulating people Charles how can coin market cap and gecko differ in their rankings because they count the initial distributions differently some of them take the distributions the founding entities out of circulation some leave them in circulation and so that creates a supply difference and that's what creates the market cap so coin gecko puts it in coin market cap takes it out so on gecko we're number six CMC we're number eight Charles can you tell us the dangers of gold diggers well kanye west can you actually did a whole song on that so a counterintelligence group at and the US government that deals with people of clearances you travel abroad work abroad they always tell people beware the natashas and it's a generic term that they use for a very attractive woman usually from Russia or Eastern Europe who happens to work for the KGB because that's what it was at a time but now FSB and more generally an Intelligence Agency even our friends like the UK and Israel and they're overly interested in these 50 plus year old balding men with fat beer bellies who been married for thirty years and think that they are just the cat's meow why well because they obviously want all the information out of them and they of course they always fall for the bait leak a whole bunch of things male ego is very fragile those techniques can of course be reapplied for extracting money instead of classified information the end of the day you're not as interesting as that if you are thirty years older than the woman who's talking to you your ears should be her father you should that be her boyfriend so just be wary of that and understand that sorry unless you're like special like a rock star or something like that ok well then they're with you for the novelty of being with you for that moment so they can tell their friends they slept with a rock star but again they don't actually like you for you they like you for your brand ok there are no exceptions to that be aware of the Natasha's now of course I rue it will pull out a counter but I have a friend or I did this or I did that I'm sorry if there's 30 years of age difference come on now that's a lifetime honestly it's enough time to go get a PhD in math and then become a doctor and fight in a war and go live in the jungles for five years and like look for like flowers that cure cancer and [ __ ] and then have made lost a fortune and then you know had your heart broken and raised a family you can do all of that in a thirty year period okay so I'm sorry now that just doesn't that doesn't compute and work for me it really doesn't but that's one man's opinion Charles just joined what do you think about why Cardona could still fail despite excitement around Chile it was written by a guy who holds Bitcoin and ether and all the arguments are just complete [ __ ] it's like well they don't have any data on the platform it's like well yeah because our smart contract programming language is not turned on we can have a lot of traction and adoption very quickly here and the ecosystem we have is unique in that it can attract people who don't exist in the etherium ecosystem and we have a whole bunch of deals we're doing in Africa Eastern Europe and other places that will bring literally millions of users into our ecosystem making us the most popular cryptocurrency in 24 to 36 months but of course the author doesn't really care to know any of that and you know if you really did then you have to ask why didn't he reach out for us for comment I read a hit piece on us you could at least have the courtesy of contacting us and saying hey I'm gonna read an article it's a little rough would you like to contribute a little bit maybe make a counter-argument to be objective and fair no but in crypto briefing loves reading hit pieces so there's that ignore them there gadfly's there's all saying the dog barks the caravan moves on and that's exactly what he is a dog barking what if your hair guy who spent 30 years watching sports and network TV Wow okay would you survive when dropped in a jungle I did I was dropped in Cambodia and I survived that and that was tough I actually nearly died it involved a tank an RPG a lot of drugs in three days of walking that's another story for another time if you ever been to the Taj Mahal three off South Boulder yes I have they have a great buffet there it's it's in Louisville good place highly recommend used to go there with my parents when Joe Rogan Rogen after Kogan favorite place in Africa oh man Africa is amazing I'll give it to you guys the next one now you guys are all thinking like is that Cambodia story a real story it is but no one ever believes me have you heard from your man in ethiopia no I haven't heard from John O'Connor I really worry about him he's a he's a sneaky guy though he's also been to Cambodia I'm sure John's fine have you ever done wheel the wheel racing while I do track racing with the Lamborghini it's a lot of fun got it up to 184 miles an hour and is a really good car on a track good night James is legal and no don't do things that doll the mind do things that open the mind accelerate the mind you should check out chrono trigger I am fully aware of chrono trigger a great soundtrack did you like Gilligan's Island yes I did it was supposed to be a three-hour got my motorcycle put 208 miles per hour on the highway I got you beat there and a Ducati SRT monster got that too 205 in Jakarta correct that a thing three times it's a lot of fun how do you even get dropped in Cambodia well you fly there and you have friends in Cambodia who turn out not to be as friendly as you thought whenever they say they have an old Soviet tank don't listen to them it's all fun and games until they leave you did you ever visit like Close Encounters of the Third Kind yeah I visited Devil's Tower and it dawned on me right when I was there I was like wait a minute this wasn't a movie love that Charles doesn't say smash up the legs well I don't have to say it cuz you do it guys love me come on we all know it's not narcissism it's just a fact yeah is it a year weighty too long for a dry here well at the time I didn't know there was gonna be a global pandemic oh it was good yes stressful as it was the lunch jelly I really wish this was the way here man because I think I would be shit-faced drunk more often than you think but now it's been a dry year last time I had a drink was December of last year December 26 don't have any children that I know of always have to throw that out there can we get a permanent version of the DJ booth from the Cardinal summit with an extended play list yeah there'd be a lot of fun wouldn't it that was awesome I was listening to it in my office didn't even know about the DJ booth I just saw it I was like wow Carrie that was a good idea good work all right we got about eight minutes left Angelo's a gallows he's researching lots of cool stuff have you ever tried to float tank yes I used to go every week before Quran ahead they just reopened them can I Michael Charles do you have hyperthyroid you meet helfen yes I knew how he was a good guy he actually worked on PGP not a lot of people know that he'll been around forever it was just a thoroughly good human being and he could send him an email he spent hours answering it when Tesla Roadster when they updated the new 1200 horsepower 1.8 second to zero to 60 Tesla I'm so doing that the McLaren 720s is also an interesting car although I'd like to upgrade the Huracan to an Aventador yeah the Porsche 918 is pretty insane do you think owning digital game keys on the blockchain for reselling is a good use case for Cardinal let's do that with legends of LR as a native asset why not actually you can even sell it with your game history - how about that so it's a non-functional token Charles what's your daily driver now the Lamborghini is but sometimes the ct-6 is the Lamborghini wasn't supposed to be the daily driver but I just liked it so much I put ten thousand miles on it I know like massively depreciates it I just don't care so much fun the kids liked it little kids really loved that car it's so much fun you let them take pictures with it and everybody record you I stopped counting after a hundred and thirty pictures I think does a Lambo pull chicks and know that it's the biggest misconception you will ever have with a exotic supercar a lot of people get it they say aw man I'm gonna get so many women with this car no no no no no no men like it you will have so many guys around you being like I want to take your picture Wow their car so awesome that's so but you're at a gas station dudes will come up to you it's a dude magnet that's of course not the intent but that's what happens with that car most women don't care do you change your own oil with Lambo no they have to take the engine out for that it's like 1,200 bucks for an oil change yeah I know what yeah okay they care but in the different context like on the road it's just all guys it just is also it's very dangerous sometimes you have to be very focused and pay a lot of attention because people are looking at you and trying to take your picture or take a video of you and so they swerve sometimes I've had to dodge a lot of cars it's a weird experience do you think the Tesla Roadster will be more fun the Lamborghini it'll be a lot faster the the one they're coming out with 1,200 horsepower necessarily the Huracan I have 600 it's twice as many horsepower 0 to 16 1.8 seconds 0 to 135 and back to 0 in like 6 seconds the McLaren 720s does that in 8 and it goes 0 to 60 in 2.4 it's really a crazy thing does the oil change work the same with the Ferrari yeah it's more expensive Lamborghini owners are nice Ferrari owners I haven't really met a lot of nice ones this tests my personal experience they all treat me like dirt did you get a Lambo with Bitcoin no actually it was part of a consulting gig and it was thrown in and I said that sounds great and I did still have to pay taxes on that it's about 60,000 worth of taxes but pretty good for her con but I've been in Bitcoin since 2011 so it's been very good to me actually it's not as crazy you think Viking about the design because it's such a finely tuned engine and there's all this weird stuff going on that they have to do a crazy inspection when they go through the whole thing and it's a lot of work it's like 900 bucks in parts I buy American Fort baby me - I got GM Cadillac all the way and actually did think about getting the getting the Ford GT Charles stop it lol the kids love it you like being the guy in the Lamborghini well yeah of course everybody does you gotta try to lie there but the kids really do love it kids really do yeah it just makes their day there's nothing more fun within when you're driving through and you see some SUV with a soccer mom driving and you have these young kids in the back and they're like wow it's Batman I just flip out and I start taking pictures and so forth it makes their day you know it's good to see that some people aren't cynical and they still think that the world is all magical and everything like that anytime you can really make somebody's day that's a lot of fun we get farm equipment for consulting work I'd love to get a roller you know those those waterers a walker like a hundred thousand dollars it's crazy how expensive farm equipment is to use a password manager yet LastPass I'll create my own at some point but LastPass is very good when are you going to put I which case proposal for future development card ah no we have to give Voltaire to a certain state where it could take something of that magnitude then there has to be a consortium built around it hopefully the end of the year but we'll keep working on it until we get to that point we won't suddenly pull out just because 2020 expires if we have to keep it going over we'll keep doing that please don't use your vote no we will not I promise you actually Daedalus will be upgraded to have a voting Center and at hand there's a cellphone voting app so it's gonna be very easy to vote I'm going to do a whiteboard video to talk a little bit about voting and some things that are coming [Music] alright almost done favorite old school muscle car a 1960 Shelby is pretty [ __ ] good good night New Jersey alright let's hear the lock-up period for ADA has already expired it started in 2017 and it expired June of 2019 foundation actually hasn't done anything with their ADA we're moving all of it to clean base as soon as they have a staking solution because I don't like holding that much it's nice to have an insured account Brent Peterson my mom drove a 68 GTO well you got a really awesome mom man all right we'll leave it on Brett's mom thank you guys so much for this wonderful livestream I really enjoy these mas a lot of fun we laughed a little bit we cried a little bit got through the day and remember whoa Ron Paul or Kanye or Brock night